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There is that whole “love your neighbor” thing Jesus talked about that doesn’t sit well with selfishness. The OP qualified the original question asking if it’s ok to opt out “mid season.” That’s different from deciding to leave college a year early.
Playing for that knuckle head is a extreme circumstance
If you feel like your talents aren't being used and maybe you would be appreciated elsewhere, yes. Just like the programs, the players have to look out for themselves.
Fields, Eason, etc.
A player opting out at any point after committing to a program is on the coaching staff.
Perennial top 5 recruiting classes and no NC will be the undoing of Smart as it was for RIcht.
I totally get that a football player's physical health and ability is a limited commodity. At what point in life does someone learn to make and keep a commitment? The entire football experience is becoming more and more one-dimensional, and as a mama of three sons, I'm concerned it does not do these fellas or their communities much good at all.
I would argue that doesn't matter. The Israelites of the Bible fell into idol worship because their neighbor was supportive of it. That didn't make it right. It just meant that a whole people sinned against God.
Hey, I'm not really judging Mr. Hill's decision. I don't know the man's heart. I'm commenting on the circumstance in general and how it reflects an erosion of values in our culture. There was a time not so long ago when his "brothers" would have condemned him for doing it.
Our culture has become very supportive of "me" at any cost. That doesn't make it best for a community or for a football team.
If you are going to opt out, I believe it should be don’t before the season starts. You don’t play multiple games during the season then decide to opt out half way through. That’s selfish and weak in my opinion.
Community values and one personal football choice have nothing to do with one another. This guy, or any other player, can still possess great values and be an asset to his community all while deciding to opt out. Several on here are acting is if they go hand in hand, when in fact they don't.
What if he’s looking out for his mother, father, siblings, girlfriend/wife, children, community, etc.?
To be fair, you are judging him.
Sharing this since it hasn’t been posted here yet. Also, wasn’t Hill one of the players vital to getting the Mississippi state flag changed?
What a selfish POS.
Wow, the POS addition to this discussion - although sarcastic - takes this discussion to a classless level. It is a below-board addition to your opinion that keeps progress from being made, and just serves to bring emotion and irrational thought and comments into a good, mature discussion.
The comments being made by several who may disagree with you somewhat were attributed to a hypothetical question of mid-season quitting vs. out-of-season transfers.
They were not directed at an individual.
Most (including my own) included provisions for individual situations that make the decision more understandable, more reasonable.
Sometimes you have to quit your job to take care of family. Sometimes you have to quit your job to move due to unforeseen circumstances. That is the world we live in, and in some cases that decision IS putting others above yourself.
SOME of these kids - and what seems a higher and higher percentage - quit because they don't want to fight through an adverse situation. And it is just this fight, this struggle, that could make them better men later in life. That is not my opinion - I have seen such struggle turn spoiled, immature boys into men.
And there is usually fewer life-altering consequences if this lesson is learned in the arena of sports and not the arena of the "real world!!!!"
That is why sports are awesome...
You can say all that and call my obviously sarcastic comment classless, but we both know that many of your and there’s previous posts on this thread were at least somewhat directed at Hill. You and others can say they weren’t, but they were.
You’re using the word “hypothetical” to protect yourself. Which player has opted out midseason without significant reason? You’re engaged in this conversation because of Hill and everything you’ve said has been at least somewhat directed at Hill.
I completely agree with what you said about going through adverse situations can make you a better person.
My personal opinion in general when a player feels that he can gain nothing more from the university and can only really hurt himself by playing more... remove yourself from the team. It sounds cold but if I have a chance to drastically improve me and my families financial situation I'm going to do everything I can to protect it. My brothers on the team are not going to pay for my sons/daughters braces, I have to do that. It doesn't mean that I don't care about them or the team. I would be protecting my future for myself and my family and I don't see one selfish thing about that.
It your poll is clearly biased. What if the player loses family to COVID? What if number of players/programs affected by the virus, with dire projections of a huge increase as weather cools, gives him grave (morbid pun intended) health concerns?
Some players might quit under those circumstances, even those with no real chance of “getting theirs.”
As far as what's "right for football" that's all a matter of opinion. And you wanting a player to not opt out for the sake of football, isn't that you being selfish? Looking out for football and what you expect a player's attitude to be, rather than supporting what the player thinks is best for his future. Are you putting this player's future before your own ideas of how football should be? Remember, you're supposed to put others before you.