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"To declare for the draft as an underclassman is to renounce any/all remaining eligibility."
According to what rule and who enforces it?
The NCAA enacted that rule to preserve Amateurism in College Football. According to "experts" that appear on The Paul Finebaum Show from time-to-time, the NCAA has basically abandoned authority over College Football. With all of the "NIL deals" that have been reported and the Collectives that have emerged, how many NCAA Investigations have been launched? Zero.
Amateurism is a thing of the past in College Football. They're even introducing legislation in California to make College Football players, employees of the University, requiring regular payment. Each State has their own laws governing NIL and Collectives.
With all that in mind...are you still asserting that the NCAA can legally revoke a player's eligibility, simply because he says, "I want to be considered for the NFL Draft"?
If so, my response would be, "See ya in court". I believe that rule is now obsolete. It just hasn't occurred to anybody, to challenge it. Which will happen in time
As for Anderson, I'm not going to presume to know what he would do, if acquitted. I would think it depends on the timing. If he believes he can improve his NFL signing bonus and position by returning for 1 more year of college...I say, why not? He's obviously been hobbled by this incident.
I hope truth and justice prevail, but I know how it goes.
Go, Dawgs!
A flimsy case brought on by a questionable "victim" by a grand jury system that would indict anyone for anything. Keep you head up Adam. Everyone wait until this trial goes to open court where the defense is permitted to present its case. This case stunk from the moment it came out.
THought they were just after some kind of payout, but evidently not. Or does this just increase the likelihood of a bigger payout now that he's been scheduled togo to trial ? Any legal eagles in the crowd? Can the woman still refuse to testify and the case gets dropped?
For the idiots on here who say this was for the money: why would she claim this, knowing it will destroy his career if convicted? If it was all about the money, wait until he signed a contract She gets all the scorn from clowns like you, has to testify, etc. He’s also been accused by another student. There are rapists in the world, even ones who wear the uniform you clearly blindly love. Most other message boards say look at how UGA has distanced themselves from this guy to know whose story the school believes.
Jimmybob
I don't see anyone scorning the woman. If she goes to trial and pursues justice then good on her, let the jury decide, but let's don't be so naive to not recognize that this kind of thing happens with regularity with women seeking payouts, either as hush money or to just make it all go away. If Anderson truly raped her against her will, I hope he get's time.
In the end it's going to boil down to a she said/he said more than likely, unless there is a witness. The fact that she would go to trial instead of receiving a payout leans IMO toward's her telling the truth. But even then, who can know 100% for sure, with out carroborating evidence.
I seem to remember a Supreme Court candidate being accused of being a "serial rapist" . Didn't mean it was true though.
I don’t doubt that what happened, happened. I also don’t think the accuser is in it for money. What I do wish, with all my heart, is that she hadn’t gone drinking with Adam and then gone back to his place in the middle of the night. If she really had no intent to sleep with him, she should have gotten an uber or called a friend to take her home.
Who knows what might happen if eligibility rules were challenged in court today with all the new NIL stuff - but there is precedent for players declaring for the draft and then NOT being able to return t college. This is all from memory, so forgive me if the details are a little blurry...
In the early 2000s, Maurice Clarett (Freshmen RB from Ohio State) challenged the NCAA rule that stated you had to wait 3 years after your graduating high school class before going to the NFL. I believe he even won a court ruling initially before it was overturned on appeal. Mike Williams (Rec from Sothern Cal) declared for the draft after the initial ruling. When the appeal overturned the original ruling and said "you can't go pro until 3 years after HS", Mike Williams attempted to go back to USC. He was not allowed, and ended up sitting out a year before turning pro. In this scenario, Williams was neither eligible for the NFL draft NOR to return to college. I don't recall what Clarett did after the ruling - but I do remember he got in some trouble for having a bunch of guns which further impacted his situation.
Anderson won't likely be allowed to return to college (though anything is possible), but he is eligible for the NFL. He won't go now because NFL teams don't know if he'll be available. He could enter the supplemental draft later if cleared, where any team can basically spend a pick from next year to draft him at the round/pick they feel appropriate. That's probably a more lucrative option than trying to "walk on" somewhere as a free agent.
And concerning his time away from practice, just remember the Covid year where tons of players sat out a full season. Many of those were drafted - including Ja'Marr Chase, who was drafter 5th overall after not playing a snap. If Anderson is found not guilty, then his prior tape and measurables will certainly get him noticed by the NFL - even more than guys who missed time due to injuries because Anderson is only coming back from not playing and doesn't also have to prove he's recovering from a physical impediment.
Good stuff but not relevant to this case. AAnderson is entered in THIS draft pool and eligible for THIS draft. He will either be selected (doubtful with the uncertainty) or not selected. IF he is not selected he is a FA just like all the other guys that aren't selected. There will be no supplemental draft. This is actually to his benefit IF he is acquitted/innocent. Instead of being drafted by one team he can negotiate with the 17 teams that came to his workout. With edge rusher's value at a premium and with his production and measurables he will likely sign a Rd 1 level contract. Prior to this situation Anderson was considered the best pro prospect on the UGA D. This case is not likely to be resolved quickly. Anderson has played his last down of college football.
Flimsy case and questionable "victim" Do you know more than has been put out in the media?
Earlier comment said "Flimsy case with a questionable "victim" Don't know if that falls into the definition of "scorning" but it sure is a negative comment towards the woman.
Poor judgements abound in people unfortunately. And common sense is not common.
A grand Jury indictment just means a certain percentage of the members of a grand jury, found that based on evidence presented by the prosecution, was sufficient enough for the accused stand trial. This is a formality in serious cases and no defense testimony is allowed. Without a rebuttal, the evidence presented would have to be really weak and very suspect for them not indict.
Adam will get his day in court and contrary to the "prosecution has to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt", Adam and his team will need to prove a lot of doubt and that is just facts.
This all definitely will have a negative impact on his draft status but that is not the fault of the NFL. Teams are going to try and protect their assets and for selecting early round draft prospects, its all about trying to make wise choices to minimize your risk and maximize your return. Serious legal problems will come into play.
@Dawgin_In_Memphis
You hit on one of the points I was trying to make. It involves: A). "Not Guilty" B). Timing.
Whether he would challenge the rule or not, depends on the timing of the sentence and whether he's found "Guilty", "Not Guilty", or the "Victim Recants". If it's prior to the College Football season, he would most definitely benefit far more from another year in College and entering next year's draft. That would guarantee him a 1st rounders contract and muti-million dollar signing bonus...worth a year, IMO. If he were to try out for an NFL team, his initial contract would be pedestrian in comparison. After the draft, it's a buyer's market. He has very little leverage.
Also, the fact that the "indictment" came the day before the draft, may bolster his case to return.
The Clarrett issue isn't the same, in that the NCAA had much more power over College athletics and courts were friendly to NCAA arguments. After the SCOTUS ruling, that's no longer the case. Power has shifted to individual Conferences, Student-Athletes and State Legislatures. Public opinion is with the Student-Athlete, moreso now, than it was during Clarrett's time, which makes it a Political hot potato. If the rule were to be challenged now, under the Anderson circumstance (assuming "Not Guilty"), I think you would see a very different result.
"Adam and his team will need to prove a lot of doubt and that is just facts."
HE doesn't have to prove anything...nothing. He is innocent. The State has to prove, "Beyond a Reasonable Doubt", that he is guilty. All his defense team has to do, is raise a reasonable doubt. I'm think that may exist right now, unless the State has significant evidence we aren't aware of.
"This all definitely will have a negative impact on his draft status but that is not the fault of the NFL."
Also, if he's found "not guilty", it's not his fault either, right? So, IMO, he should hit the reset button, return to college for a year, and enter next year's draft. There's no way he can negotiate a contract after the draft, that will remotely compare. Coming out with an indictment the day before the draft may give him a case to withdraw from draft consideration, voluntarily and sue the NCAA to return to college...should he be found "Not Guilty" or the "alleged victim" recants her statement. That's what I would do. It would potentially mean millions of additional dollars in his pocket and allow him time to rehabilitate his reputation.
Depends on the timing and any offer he may get from an NFL Team.