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Georgia teammates come to defense of Jalen Carter after Todd McShay report

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  • khummelkhummel Posts: 906 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Would have been far less character and maturity had he responded with reciprocal antics (or worse, a shove), as that very likely would have sparked a melee. So let's just agree on... Go Dawgs!

  • DvilleDawgDvilleDawg Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    When will these jackasses be held accountable for spewing lies about these players? If you have an anonymous source then you should investigate before getting on tv to continue to spew said lies. At least that's what real journalist would do.

  • Oldddawg76Oldddawg76 Posts: 393 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I'm guessing that Smart et al will give this mcshay feller the credibility he deserves. As in "one". Mos' likely, he's already let Carter know how valued he is and that responding will do nothing more than cater to the rumor-mongering and distract from the task at hand.

  • Bdw3184Bdw3184 Posts: 13,198 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2022

    Most likely too busy preparing for tOSU to actually care or give a rat's patootie as to what McShay thinks.....!!

    Truly believe that our coaching staff will deal with this internally with our players so as not to become an issue in the locker room.....by that I mean it will surely go up on the Bulletin Board!!!!

    Good luck tOSU! You're gonna need it!!

    I like our chances!

    Go Dawgs!!!!

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 788 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate


    Actually, McShay doesn't cite any source -- anonymous or on the record. Everything he says during the whole bit is in the passive voice (e.g. "there are some character issues" rather than "scouts are worried about character issues"). Sourcing is one of the first things readers or viewers should look for when evaluating the credibility of a story.

    Making an explosive claim that could seriously damage this young man's livelihood without any attribution is truly irresponsible. It's one thing for a former player or coach who's now an ESPN pundit to mouth off his opinion; it's quite another for one of their supposed journalists to do that.

    Other than the dustup with Mizzou, I don't recall anything controversial or reflecting poorly on Carter's "character." You'd think there would be more than one incident if, as McShay implies, NFL scouts are concerned about him.

    It's still possible that McShay's simply reporting what scouts and others are telling him. it's difficult to say that Carter doesn't have a character issue just because it's always difficult to prove a negative.

    But it's also possible that McShay heard this rumor from one guy who has some sort of axe to grind, or that he just remembered the Mizzou incident and figured that gave him license for a hot take that would get a lot of attention.

  • StiffneckStiffneck Posts: 86 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Another so-called ESPN expert generating click bait.

  • TrippTripp Posts: 514 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Like I tell them in The business world, tell me who said it or it has no validity to me. ESPN needs to do better speculating on a young man in negative base on an Anonymous source. Very poor journalism and very lazy of Mcshay. Not sure of the facts on the motive but McShay or his anonymous source definitely has one.

  • David1David1 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    KBP, I’d be more concerned if Kirby did address it than if he didn’t. If someone asks him about it, he might give an answer, but I doubt he’s wasting his time on something so trivial. Do you have reason to believe this story is more important than the whole team getting ready for the peach bowl? Go Dawgs!!

  • VetdawgVetdawg Posts: 782 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Agreed…. Go dawgs.


    A mature individual keeps himself out of those situations to start with.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @Vetdawg and @khummel

    You two are right: a mature individual keeps himself out of those situations. Jalen Carter is 20. Are we going to delude ourselves concerning the percentage of 20 year olds that are mature? Before you respond, please consider the car insurance rates for that demographic.

    SB IV - the leader of this team - is 25. That's a good thing. But the rest of the UGA players? I just don't get the idea where we hold college athletes to higher standards than we expect of the general population, or even to higher standards that other college students have to meet. Cruise around the UGA campus any given Saturday night and tell me what percentage of the UGA undergrads could adhere to the maze of NCAA regulations. What percentage of them could meet Kirby Smart's disciplinary standards. What percentage of them would hold up under the constant media (news and social) scrutiny. Or the invasive background investigations that are part of the NFL predraft process.

    I just don't get the idea that we should hold guys in their teens and very early 20s to the same maturity standards as we do 40 year olds with a wife, 3 kids, job, mortage and 8 years of military service just because they are college athletes. Look, we know the coaches who just let their athletes run around and do whatever they want. We also know that this doesn't describe Kirby Smart, nor did it describe Mark Richt. So if Jalen Carter had actual maturity or character issues worthy of note, Kirby Smart would have given Carter a "my way or the highway" thing ages ago. And keep in mind: I am actually someone who isn't exactly a Kirby Smart fan or one who agrees with Smart's decisions. Quite the contrary, I criticize Smart on here all the time. So I am not a homer who views the world through UGA-colored glasses. But we have ample evidence from Smart's track record that if there was a problem with Carter, Smart would have taken actions to address it ages ago.

  • KBPKBP Posts: 385 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @David1,

    I don't see McShay's comment as trivial. It's an unfounded assault on Carter's character on a National platform. How is that not close to being slander along the lines of what Doug Gottlieb said about Freddie Freeman's agent? Coach Smart should be able to defend his players AND prepare for a game that is 16 days away. What if this was said about Jordan Davis, Nakobe Dean or Brock Bowers leading up to the Orange Bowl last year? I wonder if it would have been trivial then, guys who there never was any question raised about their character. It's trivial if I or someone else not in the business of NFL draft reporting says it. It's not trivial coming from McShay.

  • DJG76DJG76 Posts: 212 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited December 2022

    I learned everything I will ever need to know about Jalen's character when he restrained himself from biting Jaden's head off when he picked him up! Now concerning Todd McShay.....If ever they did meet, I'm sure Jalen would walk away rather than take the time to even flush that ****.


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