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AJC can't stop chasing the ambulance...
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I hear you lying when you say “inserting himself” and “interrogating the officers”… he just spoke with everyone he could. Cops, players, staff, everyone. If the cops come back and say that he planted evidence or started rewriting the traffic report, you’ll have a point. But you’re lying about what the guy did.
A little late given the whole thread was about casting aspersions on Gantt and the program?
Well, it was about criticizing the AJC. You just can't get anything right.
You literally described it that way. Why does he need to talk to the cops at all? I haven't lied about a single thing, and you'll be unable to point to anything to suggest otherwise
Another lie? Because I didn’t say anyone was interrogated or inserted into anything. You did. I said he showed up and talked to as many people as he could. And I gave you a perfectly reasonable and ethical reason for doing it: to find out if there was anything he could do to help. You and AJC have adopted the leap that UGA sent someone to manipulate the police to help UGA.
Two dead kids and you still assume people are acting in bad faith.
You’re arguing semantics. “I didn’t literally say that just described it that way” come on now. Also never said he went there to manipulate police and neither did the AJC. Guess liars can’t help themselves. He could have had only good intentions, but still doesn’t excuse his actions even if that is the case. It gives the appearance of impropriety given the massive conflict of interest. No reason to get involved with the police at that stage. Just let them do their work
No, I’m saying that you literally said he was “interrogating officers” and “inserting himself in the investigation”. Those are direct quotes from you.
I am 100% taking issue with your claim that there’s even an appearance of impropriety because your description of his actions is false and you are obtusely claiming there’s no ethical explanation when many have have been give to you.
Even now, you don’t know if there’s a good reason for Gantt to talk to cops or not. You’re assuming there isn’t one, but you don’t know. Tell me.. How forthcoming are a bunch of young black men with the cops? Do you think a trusted face there could help the cops fast forward their investigation? Maybe? It’s a non-malicious explanation that you’ve missed because you’re so committed to this other narrative.
As I said, ambulance chasing has a very specific meaning and has nothing to do with what newspapers or other media do:
am·bu·lance chas·er
/ˈambyələns ˈCHāsər/
noun
derogatory•North American
noun: ambulance chaser; plural noun: ambulance chasers
a lawyer who specializes in bringing cases seeking damages for personal injury.
Here’s where you say “inserting himself into investigation”
I’m aware. I just restated what you were saying in a different way.
Nothing I’ve stated is false. Either give specifics about what I’ve said is wrong or shut up.
I’ve explained multiple times that his known interactions with the police were inappropriate. Shouldn’t have that level of access to cops actively investigating a fatal crash site through direct contact with the chief of police. Anything he could have done to help the situation did not require that. Every explanation given could not reasonably justify why he would need access to the crash site and the officers investigating.
You and everyone else also can’t explain why he was there interacting with investigating officers. The race baiting here is absurd. It’s a fatal wreck not a traffic stop.
none of you can give a coherent explanation for why he needed such intimate access to the police.
He quite literally did that lmao. Just denying reality at this point
Weird, because I feel like I’m saying the opposite of what you’re saying… I’m saying that when a leader sees his people in trouble they rush to the scene and figure out if there’s a way to help. I’m saying that it’s perfectly normal for people to rush to the scene. I’m saying that a person can rush to the scene and talk to a police officer without compromising anything. And police chiefs are supposed to give their numbers out to people so lots of people have it, and Gantt was specifically selected because he had that number. What’s the police chief going to say, “I know it’s unusual for you to have kids die, but we’re used to it, so don’t show up”? What sane person would even listen to that instruction?
Theres no race baiting or guilting you over dead kids. Im showing you that two things are wrong: 1) there’s a perfectly rational reason the cops would want to talk to Gantt… to help them move faster 2) there’s a perfectly rational reason that Gantt went there immediately… because he was in a very serious crisis situation and showed up and he hit every panic button he could find to try to get info and mobilize resources in case it was needed.
I think it’s super **** to assume that UGA’s fixer tried to muck around with an investigation into the death of two kids.
I never assumed that
I originally assumed that it was understood by all when the OP included it in the headline that he was simply using it more as a metaphor for calling out the AJC’s spin as the journalistic equivalent of lawyers shamelessly chasing ambulances. However, thanks anyway for clarifying the actual difference.
Ok then, I’ll bite. Why do you think he showed up and, as you put it, “inserted himself into the investigation”?
Which is also a dumb thing to describe his behavior as… he could literally conduct a full parallel investigation with private investigators and private accident experts, take his own scene photos, and conduct his own interviews with everyone, and still not being “inserting himself into the police’s investigation”. How fragile or complicit are you imagining the police?
He called the police chief at 3:15 AM and had the chief give him access to the officers at the scene. How dumb do you think we are?
I wouldn’t assume that anyone understands anything in this thread…
See what you started?