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Brock Vandagriff to reportedly enter transfer portal

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  • PlateauDawgPlateauDawg Posts: 62 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Stetson might have won that game...only if Todd Monken was calling the plays. Beck is a better all around QB than Bennett. I wish Vandagriff well...I hope he doesn't go to Auburn but I could see Freeze turning him into a high draft pick.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2023

    I agree though SBIV's mobility may have helped. I look more at the Bobo/Monken comparison. I have been a Bobo defender. But running an end around at your own 11 yard line was not smart. ESPECIALLY a play that you almost never use in a game. I think the only time Bobo moved the pocket was on the 1st pass to BB's. Not all on Bobo. Pretty typical CKS game plan of running a lot between the tackles to "wear down the opposing D".

    Many things could've been tried but weren't. ASmith caught a long ball should've been targeted more.

    It hurt that "somebody" fell on AMims leg on the 2nd possession putting him out for the game. Called that.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Based on many comments already posted here. Beck did throw for 245 yds. While that’s not earth shattering and less than some of his 300 yds. plus efforts in other games. It’s still pretty solid.

    Losing Mims so early Really Hurt the Dawgs. Because he was one of the Primary reasons for the large holes for Milton and Edwards to run through vs GT and TN earlier. He’s a Huge human being and the Bama D Line I believe would’ve had more trouble pushing him out of the way. But that’s the milk spilled, is what it is. Injuries were and aren’t my primary bone of contention.

    The officiating is my bitterness, because those weren’t simply “missed calls” I know Refs are human and there for prone to make mistakes. But they Reviewed TWO Dawgs Catches and Didn’t review Any Bama Catches. The Non-Review of the obvious No Catch by Bama, Gave the Tide a TD only two plays later. Thats 7 precious points in a very tight game.

    The No Call for face mask on Milton. Many other No Calls on Bama’s behalf. They did call it when the Bama defender tried his very best to Tear Beck’s Head Off !! I’m very surprised Beck wasn’t injured on that play.

    The Bogus horse collar on Bullard, which Gene Santorie a retired Chief Review Official said was Very Ify and probably Shouldn’t have been called. By pointing these things out I’m NOT making excuses, I’m taking a stand against INJUSTICE !!

    Oh and the ole cliche “Champions Find A Way To Win”. Well the PlayOff Committee just totally neutered that !! Undefeated FSU Found A Way to win their Conference Championship by 10 points were Royally screwed just like our Dawgs.

    The Committee “ Claims” they wanted the four Best teams. OK based on that logic go back and Look at the Dawgs margin of victory in games vs Bama, be sure to take a special look at Common Opponents.

    As for the so called “weak schedule” Dawgs played several Ranked teams all the way back to KY. It should be no concern of the Dawgs or The Committee what happened with those teams After the Dawgs played them, what Should have mattered was they Were Ranked when the Dawgs played them.

    CFB is Very Clearly what I and Many others suspected it was transforming into, all about the $$$$. And Nothing to do with how well you play but Who you are. Which accounts for King Saban vaulting all the way from #8 to the playoffs. While the Dawgs who had pretty much Owned the #1 slot in the Playoffs, AP, and Coaches Poll all season drop from number one to number six from a 3 point loss to Bama. Uh Huh, Sure, Sure, Right.

    I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck yesterday, I Know when cheating is going on. That’s Why Saban was Very Aggressively and Very Publicly lobbying for him and his Tide BEFORE they even played the Dawgs. Kirby lobbied After the Dawgs loss. And Kirby is Absolutely Right, a predominately healthy which by the Play Offs they would be, Dawgs would not only be in the top four, but be THE Best Team in the country.

    Look at all the injured guys completely out and guys not completely healthy and Think what that look like if Most of them were back for the PlayOffs !! No Way MI, WA, FSU or TX would beat That Dawgs team. Again I’m NOT making excuses about injuries, I AM saying when injuries were Coupled With the obvious Unfair and Biased Officiating ( Not simply missed calls) it served to derail the Dawgs. Oh well done and done.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What’s the feel here Dawgs fans, are Y’all hoping Beck will Stay or Go ?? Speaking for myself I hope he stays. He’s a pretty good QB on the very cusp of being a great QB. And God Forbid he get seriously injured but I think Gunner would serve as a very capable backup that is If Gunner stays.

    Also I want to throw this out there just for discussion, I don’t know if it’d be the Right way or not. But what about using Gunner more often not just in garbage time. Sort of like UF did with Tebow when he first got there. It’d make rival Ds have to prepare for Two QBs.

    Some people talk about Yeah but that’d make a QB come in cold. True. But that would be offset Greatly if it Was Practiced allot during the week. If you practice Both QBs equally with the 1s during the week, coming into the game cold shouldn’t be That big of an issue. Lastly if nothing else it’d be interesting and exciting for Dawgs fans to watch !! Go Dawgs !!

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Questions just to clarify. So if BVG goes to an SEC team he’s immediately eligible ?? If so is that because of the conference realignment with OK and TX joining ??

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    My Good Brother !!! You and some others here are always optimistic. Which is infectious in a Good way. And also helps heal wounds.I’d have loved to serve with you in the Navy !! I also love your sense of humor. In summary my Brother you are a DGD !! When I grow up I want to be like you !! 😂

    If you would take a gander at my comments about the possibility of a Two QB system and give me your take. I’m Not saying it’s the Right way to go, but I Do say it deserves pondering on. God Bless You My Brother !! I wish You and your family a Very Merry Christmas !! P.S. I thought about calling my MaMa & Daddy God Rest Their Souls, on Christmas Eve one year ( like you I missed quite a few ) from a pay phone in Toulon, France. Not a bad place to be at all. But it wasn’t home. I loved the design of their pay phones back then. You probably remember them. Oh the Memories !!

  • WCHWCH Posts: 489 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I don't blame him! Brock will be a superstar somewhere else.

  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    C'mon man...are you serious? I know you know better.

    Beck is an absolute baller. It's his "first year", for God's sake. Lol. That kid will probably win a Heisman, among other awards, next year. Or, at least, be in-the-mix.

    I love what UGA has, coming back and coming in, next year. They're gonna crush some people for the next 2 or 3 years...at a minimum.

    My heart went out to those boys Saturday. You could see, several of em were givin' it everything they had left in the tank. They were hurting...to the point, Smart and Bobo were limited in what they could do, due to personnel groupings littered with inexperience and injury.

    AND THEY STILL ALMOST WON! Helluva team.

  • WoodstockDawgWoodstockDawg Posts: 263 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Best of luck BVG! Think this pretty much means Beck stays which is a great thing for the Dawgs! His continued growth will be huge for us next yr and should take him to a certain 1st rd pick if he remains injury free.

  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Lol...I don't know if I'd call it optimism. My family would probably disagree. I just call em like I see em.

    You wouldn't have wanted to be around me, before Kirby took over. While everybody was comin' down on Bobo...I was raising cane about their defense and their DC's...[Martinez and Grantham]. If not for those two guys...hired by Mark Richt...UGA would've won 2 or 3 Natty's during his tenure.

    So....I guess you gotta blame Richt for that. And, as much as I liked Richt..."I did". Lol Kirby has it goin' on, in Athens. That's all there is to it. They'll be back...again and again and again. Let me go ahead and blow the lid off the mystery.....[They will not win em all.].

    With Kirby's Program...it's not just about the talent, training and repetition. It's about the "selfless, team mindset" of a Winner and Leader. You don't make those. You find em and nurture em. They never stop getting better. Kirby has a locker room full of players like that. He is the Master of finding overlooked, raw talent...IMO.

    That scares the hell out of a lot of Coaches out there, that don't get it...and, know they have to go through UGA [or Bama] if they're going to compete.

    That's why they create "Beat UGA" practice periods at places like UM. Lol...they don't know what else to do. Lmao

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I fully agree with you in Both comments. As for You personally though, You and some others have been a positive for me. I don’t like to be a glass half empty type guy but I guess I get like ole Larry Munson sometimes, God Rest his soul !! 😀 So pretty much no worries about Beck leaving us to go to the NFL for now ?? He’s good enough to. No I Know he wouldn’t hit the TP !! He waited his turn at UGA for that !! What do you think of using Gunner more than just in garbage time though ?? The people here in Rabun County say he’s the best QB they’ve ever had. I don’t extensively know their history but they seem to be a winning program all in all. We just moved here July will be two years ago. Folks here are Very passionate about their HS football as most Georgians tend to be. Charlie Woerner is from here, you remember him. TE at UGA, I think he’s still in the NFL but I’d have to look it up. Could there be some designed situational plays for Gunner ? Or would that just be wasting a snap to Beck ? Curious your thoughts, and anyone else that wants to chime in !! Go Dawgs !!

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I hope Beck stays as he is a terrific passer IMO. Though if I had my druthers, I would want a QB who was a tad more mobile. I think all of the past several NC's have been won by QB's who can tuck it and run and beat the DE around the corner if they have to.

    BAMA won it with Mack Jones as a pocket passer, but they had a boat load of NFL receivers(DeVonte Smith, Metchie, Waddel and Billingsly) that year and Najee Harris at RB and a pretty good OL. It can be done. But everything else has to be just right too.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Just curious on your opinion ( and anyone else that cares) what would you think about using Gunner more than just garbage time ?? Have some designed plays for him like UF did when they first got Tebow. Would make rival Ds have to practice for Two QBs.

    Good idea ?? Or just taking away snaps from Beck ?? P.S. On this line of thought people are concerned about a QB coming into the game cold. But if it’s a part of regular practices wouldn’t that greatly diminish the “cold” syndrome ?? And Both Beck and Gunner are by now Very familiar with the playbook. The ole ball bag Spurrier used a two QB system to great achievement much as I hate to credit him for Anything. Thoughts ??

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @navydawg


    THe only time I would take my #1 QB out might be inside the 5 yard line where he would either hand it off or keep it himself. But that also telegraphs to the defense what your plans are. "Hey, they brought their running QB in, what do you think they're going to do?" Run right? Unless you are going to try to trick them and throw it. However, If I'm coaching, I'm not bringing in a guy in a pressure siutation whose been standing on the sideline,cold, and telling him to go throw it! That seems counter-intuitive. I want my best passer passing it, if that's what needs to be done.

    THe bottom line is you play to your strengths and you consider their ability to stop the run. A running QB is dangerous when you know he's the regular passer too and you don't know which he will do. As in Bo Nix. When you eliminate the chances that a guy is coming off the bench to throw it on the goaline then you've given your defense a better chance for success. JMHO.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thx for responding. And as usual your thoughts are very reasonable. Your probably right. But not to beat a dead horse. What if it’s a part of regular practices ? Wouldn’t that help alleviate the cold syndrome some ?

    And also if I were in charge of decisions to do that, I wouldn’t tell or instruct my running QB, OK because your more of a running QB you’ve GOT to run it. I’d give him the option of running it, throwing it, or handing it off to a RB.

    Now I Know you couldn’t do this with grossly inexperienced freshmen like our two new guys coming in. But Gunner has been at UGA for quite a while now, he should know the playbook thoroughly. We all Know he can run. So I’d let him practice with the 1s primarily throwing the ball. That and tutor him harder about how to read Defenses, which by now he should be at least pretty decent at that to already.

    Again your probably right as rain. And I’m probably wrong Big time for even considering it. He Would have to run enough in enough games to make rival Ds think Well here comes the running QB. But wouldn’t it be a thing of beauty to see a rival D set up to prevent the run only to get their eyes stung out by a nice pass ?? 😀

    And what would Really hurt them is to have some Designed runs for Beck only to be used though when he sees the opportunity from the rival D.

    Beck is no SBV and never will be, that’s just not his body build, but he’s not a statue either. For his type body build he has pretty fair, not great, but pretty fair mobility.

    I’m like you in that I don’t believe to much in gadget plays, trick plays that are only practiced a few times a year. That got us in trouble in this SECCG. But I think there Might be merit to something that’s practiced on a regular basis.

    But all this is way over my pay grade as a fan !! 😀 Bobo and company have forgot more than I’ll ever know. Thanks again for your take. I like exploring What Ifs sometimes !! But in the end I think your right, you go with your known commodity. Why they’d Never hire me !! 😂 Take care my Bro. hope you have a great day and week !!

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