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The 10 greatest seasons by a starting pitcher in MLB history....

WCDawg

I ran this down years ago using the same method for a career, Lefty Grove came out #1.

To commemorate the opening week of the baseball season and a slow day for me, I decided to come up with a top 10 for single seasons.

My method was simple. The pitchers had to throw at least 200 innings. The rest was league average ERA the season I'm analyzing, divided by the pitcher I'm analyzing's ERA for the same year. It's the only way I can think of to get a true apples to apples comparison.

Using my succinct method, here are the results.

1.Greg Maddux 1994 - 271% below league average.

2.Bob Gibson 1968 - 267% below league average.

3.Walter Johnson 1913 - 257% below league average.

4.Pedro Martinez 1999 - 221% below league average.

5.Lefty Grove 1931 - 213% below league average.

6.Sandy Koufax 1966 - 212% below league average.

7.Randy Johnson 1997 - 204% below league average.

8.Roger Clemens 1990 - 203% below league average

9.Tom Seaver 1971 - 197% below league average.

10.Steve Carlton 1972 - 176% below league average.

Let's have your feed back. Is my method sound ? what would you do differently ?

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donm

I'm glad to see some old timers made the list. Big Train was as dominant as a pitcher could be. Lefty was great as well. Interesting method you created. I wonder what the analytics people would think of it. Maybe they can chime in here. Nice work. When you get to CR, you'll have tons of time on your hands so maybe you can become an analytics geek?

GeoffDawg

You can never completely compare players from different eras, so many variables like the dead ball, the height of the mound, etc. However, what you've done seems pretty solid to me and is certainly a reasonable approach.

I don't really have a lot to add to your list, rather just want to take this opportunity to give a shout out to Mad Dog. He was truly something special and the stats in this image just blow my mind.

WCDawg

Geoff, all the variables from season to season, league to league disappear when you just compare how a pitcher compared to his contemporaries in a given year and league. That and pitching a full season were my criteria.

FYI - by my math when you subtract the intentional walks Maddux went to 3-0 on just 1 in 148 batters...DAM THAT'S AMAZING CONTROL. He had great command inside, outside, up and down. Not to mention great movement on every type pitch he used.

donm

Geoff

Those stats are mind blowing - at least to my little one. 123 batters faced a 3-0 count from 20,421 at bats? Yikes. I love that he didn't need a 95+ fast fastball to be one of the best ever. I was blessed to be living near Atlanta in those days. I must have seen him pitch 20 times in that span. I was lucky enough to be able to take student groups to sell "refreshments" at the stadium back then - they sold and I "supervised" - mostly by standing and watching games. Saw all 82 home games one year + a world series.

GeoffDawg

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/230346#Comment_230346

I get what you’re saying, I’m just wondering (and I have no answer to propose) if you also have to consider if the style of pitcher would be more or less effective in different eras? Would someone who can throw 100mph like Randy Johnson be even more dominant with a higher mound like Sandy Koufax enjoyed? Or vice versa? Who know? It’s still a fun thought exercise.

WCDawg

Also Greg was maybe the best fielding pitcher in history.

GeoffDawg

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/230351#Comment_230351

I'd forgotten about that, he won something crazy like ten straight gold gloves?

WCDawg

Geoff. Greg owns 19 gold gloves. That's the most by any player at any position in MLB history.

GeoffDawg

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https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/230354#Comment_230354

WCDawg

Geoff. there is no way to quantify some things. Using an army method devised to measure artillery velocity Walter Johnson threw roughly 83 mph. Was his arm weaker than these 100 mph guys today ? I don't think so. He often threw close to 400 innings over a 154 game schedule. More importantly, he slung the ball in the manner used in his time, there is no way you could produce propulsion equal to what can be mustered using modern methods. Johnson had maybe the best build for pitcher ever though. Imagine him with modern, diet, training and mechanics.

GeoffDawg

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/230347#Comment_230347

I got to see him pitch quite a few times as well. Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz - it was a golden age of pitching in Atlanta.

WCDawg

Those Braves' teams in the 1990s produced the top 2 seasons by pitching staffs in MLB history as rated by a top service.

AnotherDawg

@GeoffDawg is my favorite newbie. Just want that on the record in case I die of a heart attack in the next 24 hours, or get hit by a bus.

WCDawg

AnotherDawg. you could have a heart attack and fall into the path of an oncoming bus..that would be weird.

Kasey

What's Jacob deGrom's numbers from last year look like on this chart? Not saying it is one of the all time best, just curious. He's got the look of the best pitcher in baseball right now