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I understand the Braves have a front office, but if you don’t think Liberty is telling them how much they can spend, I don’t know what to tell you. If the Braves thought their lineup couldn’t compete that’s sad. They needed a frontline pitcher and bullpen help. Something fixable when you’re 21st in payroll. The Braves are a glorified Pirates organization, raking in profits no matter what they put on the field. 6th most revenue, but 21st in spending = sad. I bought their “we’re waiting on the minor leagues/youngins to payoff” basically since the baby Braves days of McCann & Francoeur, hows that worked out?
@Teddy @GeorgiaGirl is right. It seems she actually knows what she’s talking about. I posted links to WC in a thread a while back explaining how LM literally doesn’t make money from the Braves and the Braves organization makes payroll decisions autonomously. I’d do it again but somehow people never believe it when I do.
@GeorgiaGirl, what would you do if you were AA right now?
Ok, then the FO wants to make profits, and not field a complete team too. Point still stands how there’s horrible spending based on revenue being brought in. Feel free to believe that Liberty doesn’t profit from the Braves having awesome revenue and little expenses all you want.
There's really not much you can do about the bullpen for now since they gambled and lost on being able to get value from banking on sore armed guys and a 36 year old being 3 of the 4 major pieces of the bullpen. Unless you want to try out alternative ways, like for example have 8 starters and in some of the cases you see Fried go 5 and a guy like Touki go 3, you really don't have many options that won't bring more command problems for now.
That being said I've admitted I was wrong to not look so poorly on the pen because thinking it through they chose a bad idea with trying to rely on high risk guys. I was saying sign 1 guy, but it now looks like at least two should've been signed.
@Teddy http://outfieldflyrule.com/2015/11/13/the-atlanta-braves-liberty-media-and-misplaced-anger/ read if you want to I guess but this is straight from the horses mouth.
Not that it matters, being frustrated at not spending to improve the team is something you and me are in lockstep on.
I think something like what the Rays do would be well suited for us. Our organizational strength is we have a surplus of mediocre ish starters, maybe we can leverage that by having the 8 starter thing you mentioned?
relievers are fickle. I haven’t lost hope we end up having an average bullpen by the end of the year. I was more angry at them re signing markakis this off season than not addressing the bullpen, but I too was surprised they didn’t at least get one guy.
PS snitker doesn’t seem to really use the bullpen super effectively anyway so maybe having 8 psuedo starters would take a lot of those decisions out of his hands.
Can we shop the whole bullpen down and get a “line change”?
Went to the Braves AA game in Chattanooga last night and the bullpen started to give up a lead too. Luckily they figured it out. Relief pitching may be a system wide problem for the Braves
Teddy. Vizcaino is out for the season. That changes the formula with Kimbrel. I'm really not sure we have a rotation that can get us to the 9th often enough to make the closer a critical spot this season though.
If the team isn't ready to contend this season, should we look to next year and go after Kimbrel or see what the farm system produces ?
let's let the kids on the farm develop. By next year Kimbrel will be even a year older and less attractive. I haven't given up on Minter yet and, perhaps, one of the kid starters in the pen for this year.
Next year, next year, next year... the Braves motto for life
Yeah @Teddy the point of this thing is to win. At some point you can’t keep deferring to next year and make some attempts to build a winner now.
Worked OK for 15 years in a row....I could never hardly wait for next year.
Which 15 years? When they were winning pennants, or these past roughly 15 years? When they were winning, they were generally a top 3-5 team in terms of payroll/spending. They didn't wait on next year, they pounced immediately to improve the team.
the former, of course. I could hardly wait for the next season to begin and win.