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You can be a bad person and still be a good leader for a period of time. There are tons of examples throughout history of people having bizarre, self-destructive or deviant behaviors in their private lives, but were able to motivate and lead people to a common purpose or objective. JFK is a prime example. If you know anything about his personal life then you know he was a sexual predator and deviant who cheated on his wife regularly. Same could said about Bill Clinton.
My former next door neighbor was Uncle and guardian to the Burton brothers, both played for Meyers. From the many stories he's told me about Urban, that man could command a room like like nobody's business. His track record of success speaks to his leadership skills. That said, he's not someone I respect.
Same could also be said about Nixon (morals) and Trump (sexual predator) so that goes both ways.
I have no doubt Urban commands a room. But for me character counts
The premise for the entire thread was silly, but the stuff you list about Mark Richt makes you sound like a Ga Tech fan. “Off the Field” troubles? There were a slew of driving without a license arrests but no major issues of violence toward women, armed robbery, or other felonies. Mediocre assistant hires? Such as? Okay Schottenheimer. He’s not a mediocre football coach. He just didn’t fit the college game but grabbing an OC from the NFL would have been celebrated by you bunch of urnge tards in a big way until it didn’t work out. One year isn’t a sample size to judge.
As for graduation success rates, the program was performing lackluster under Jim Donnan. 2007 was the first year (cohort class of 2001) that was actually under Mark Richt’s full guidance. The rate was just below 50% and increased every year. The 2006 class graduation rate was 82%, which was for the year 2012 (higher than Clemson, btw). That was also tops in the SEC.
That number has fallen a bit, but even you should be able to comprehend that comes with the territory when a new coach is hired ; transfers, etc. Clemson has a nice graduation rate over the last 5-7 years but prior to that you guys were below the national avg in the 60 percent range - and not sniffing the Top 10 on the field the way Richt was doing.