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Braves Ongoing Season Comments Thread..
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Mets - Degrom. 2.77 ERA 1.07 WHIP
Braves - Soroka 2.45 ERA 1.11 WHIP
Mets - Marcus Stroman. 3.07 ERA 1.26 WHIP
Braves - Julio Teheran. 3.46 ERA 1.30 WHIP
Mets - Noah Syndergaard. 3.96 ERA 1.21 WHIP
Braves - Dallas Keuchel. 3.86 ERA 1.26 WHIP
Mets - Jason Vargas. 4.01 ERA 1.27 WHIP
Braves - Max Fried. 4.11 ERA 1.37 WHIP
The only spot The Mets have a real advantage is the #2 with Stroman over Teheran, and Stroman is a 4 month wonder, Julio has a far better career record. Wheeler has a 4.20 ERA and Steve Matz also has a 4.20 ERA, so The Mets have an advantage in numbers, which won't matter com e the playoffs and will disappear if Folty comes around.
As for what you prefer, it's nonsense, ERA is the actual result.
FYI Soroka pitched against DeGrom June 28th.
Braves 6 Mets 2
Soroka 6.1 innings 2 earned runs 4 Ks 0 walks
DeGrom. 6.0 innings 3 earned runs 7 Ks 2 walks.
You'll have confidence when The Mets are splattered all over the ball park.
Starting pitching is fine. Giving up four runs in the 9th today is not. Paging Mark Wohlers!
Vargas plays for the Phillies now
96 Wohlers or 91 Wohlers?
Unless a starter is pulled early we'll only use 4 or so relief pitchers in the playoffs and if a starter does go out very early a starter will probably be used. No doubt Snitker needs to figure out the pecking order though.
Ugh. That 96 series... Thanks for bringing that up. And to the Yankees of all teams. I’m hoping these new pitchers get their act together soon or else it will be a short honeymoon.
I would take Smoltz at his peak as a closer over anybody other than Mariano Rivera in a playoff series.
OK, let's update what is needed to win the division.
If we play .500 ball the rest of the way (23-23)
Washington would have to go 30-18 to tie us.
Philly would have to go 32-16 to tie us.
The Metros would have to go 32-15 to tie us.
If we win just 4 more than we lose 25-21
Washington would have to go 32-16 to tie.
Philly would have to go 34-14 to tie
The Metros would have to go 34-13 to tie us.
Braves will most likely win the division. But if the Mets get in...all bets are off
Disagree we would only use 4 relievers in playoffs. We will use more than we normally would and probably have 7-8 guys we use (counting a couple current starters who won’t end up being playoff starters).Think we may using 3-4 starters and have them all on super short leashes. First sign of issues during the second time through order is an acceptable time to yank out someone like Fried or Julio or even Kuechel.
Bullpens play a big role in playoffs because this is standard practice. Having a starter eat innings is devalued in the playoffs, so you can afford to take them out when you think their bet innings are behind them. You have bigger rosters which means you can use more arms and play platooon splits better as well. For this reason we will hopefully see a few LOOGYS like Blevins and Minter.
Newcome and maybe one of our starters will be long relief, the rest of the innings will be divided among a few players who prove themselves over the next 2 months. I agree you can't let a starter stay in the game if he's giving up too much. I'm guessing 4 runs over 5 or 6 innings will be pushing it.
If they give up 4 over 5-6 innings they were left in the game too long. Honestly, smart people would say a guy should not pitch third time through the lineup unless he is really in control. I’m pulling people after 4-5 innings as a rule, if I leave them in more than that it will have to be because they are throwing really well and have a track record of being able to manage TTTO results reasonably well.
Also, only probably soroka and maybe kuechel would get the luxury of even possibly going more than 5 for me. Just too much evidence of Julio struggling TTTO for me to even give him a chance, and don’t think I trust Fried enough either. Folty has a long long way to go to get there, and I’ve seen him lose ability to get hitters out in an instant too many times to trust him there.
I still think as I said that is the high end. It depends on the total situation as to exactly when to pull a pitcher. If our starter has settled down and we have 2 or 3 runs I'd likely set the limit at 4.