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  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,163 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I was expecting a huge spike in cases from the protests. It was all over the news and doctors were really worried about it. We haven't seen a spike related to them yet though so that's good news. Shows how effective masks can be in an outdoor setting which is a good sign that we could have fans in the stands for football.

  • Casanova_FlatulenceCasanova_Flatulence Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    How do we know recent spikes aren't the result of protests and riots? Statistics don't provide details on cause or exact time and location of contraction. Come on, you can do better than this blatant deflection.

  • Casanova_FlatulenceCasanova_Flatulence Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    100% agree @RxDawg , but again as I mentioned in an earlier post that received multiple down votes... this is the first pandemic to be politically weaponized. Am I surprised this is the case - no.

    My primary focus is on taking personal responsibility, which includes maintaining social distancing and wearing a mask in public. I've had Pneumonia 3 times, including one time that almost killed me. I do not want to get C-19, but I also realize how closing the economy has negatively impacted tens of millions of people, far more than have been infected with C-19. It's a tough balancing act and I'm very concerned that another full lockdown would be a devastating blow to the economy that we simply cannot absorb.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,163 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is the primary source

    This is a local paper from Salt Lake City, but he does he good job summarizing it.

    Does research count as blatant deflection now? Gotta keep your bias in check.

  • Casanova_FlatulenceCasanova_Flatulence Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Here's my interpretation from a ton of academic words - sourced data is highly questionable. Were police stations really keeping accurate numbers of protesters? Same for newspapers. In their own words... "Searches for protests were carried out by the Center for Health Economics & Policy Studies (CHEPS) at San Diego State University using internet searches for local and national news articles, reports from local police departments, and communications from mayors’ and governors’ offices." Given the majority of these cities and states are blue politically I think it's logical and reasonable to trust their record keeping with a skeptical eye. You think you're going to get any reliable data out of the Seattle Mayor's office? LOL, yeah good luck with that.

    Be that as it may, their conclusion boils down to an offset. The number of residents staying at home out of fear of being caught up in the protests offsets whatever spike occurred within the population of people engaged in the protests.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,163 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    So your best defense is democrats everywhere are corrupt?

    Their conclusion made no such statement. You made that conclusion because it fits your bias (something you claim everyone else has). The authors specifically state that do not know the mechanism for reduced transmission and state it may be due to the behaviors of people who attended the protest or didn't attend the protest (in reality the actions of both probably contributed). The main question the paper asked was did the protests cause a spike in cases? From the paper:

    "Regardless of the underlying mechanisms, our findings show that the protests and the fight against COVID-19 were on net aligned."

    "...when considering the results’ implications for the entire population: public speech and public health did not trade off against each other in this case."

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,453 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The total tested for infection in Georgia through yesterday 833, 878. The remaining tests were serology tests to check for antibodies. Even if those show positive they do not become a case until confirmed as active infection by the diagnostic test. The positive rate is 9.75% overall. The positive rate for May was 6.5% but that has increased to 9.3% for June. The deaths through June total 2,805 which is higher than the ICU admissions quoted and using a 20 day lag the mortality rate is 3.8% although I do think that 2.5% of cases is a good guide to use for projection of expected deaths.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,453 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    I expect to see the effects of the protests to show up in cases around July 15th through the end of the month. The is probably some uptick just starting but it will become very noticeable 5-6 weeks after they started as exponential growth kicks in. Watch to see if Minnesota starts to experience increasing cases in the next 2 weeks.

  • GrayDawgGrayDawg Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,163 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    We shall see. There were protests all across the northeast as well.

  • Casanova_FlatulenceCasanova_Flatulence Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Good grief... this is absolutely fruitless. Believe what you want, I can't help you.

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