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Not ignoring it at all - as a matter of fact, what we know now is a contributing factor to why it won't repeat.
What our country has done - and is willing to do - is the reason this thing hasn't looked like 1918 the first time through...
Plus, the fact that 100 years later we have slightly better healthcare, education, communication, diet, standard of living, etc. may contribute to my hypothesis.
I will say this - with everything we ALREADY know about this crap (which, I will admit is about 11% of the story) and how to, at least, tamp it down - if we have a second wave that is worse that this one, then our country/government/economy/society has collapsed, or at least been greatly decimated, because:
this thing has mutated to another strain
or we can't vaccinate it
Or we discover reinfection can happen quickly and easily and more deadly during the rerun.
I am a hopeful optimist. But I am a science guy, not waiting for Santa to fix it, either.
Gonna get better...
He was saying people dying from non covid deaths were being counted for death tolls. A conspiracy theory. Most people have some sort of pre-existing conditions especially older people.
For what it's worth, my reading of the reports out of S. Korea are that reinfections are likely a combination of A.) people relapsing before virus is fully cleared from their system and B.) testing specificity-- when done on hundreds of thousands of people-- is always going to have a few repeat errors.
Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist, but since Trump insinuated he could override governors, we are getting “ZERO” updates from our 14 hospitals. We were getting 3 updates EVERYDAY until that comment from Trump. I can’t say for certain, but it seems we are heading for a lifting of the “stay at home” order.
We have survived so far. The wife and I made it to our 50th wedding anniversary today.
Congratulations @TuckyDawg. That is a fantastic accomplishment.
You in Georgia? I found it odd that cases between 12 and 6 or so seemed as if it really slowed yesterday. It might be for weekend purposes though (slower testing). We'll see, comparing this coming Monday's numbers to last Monday's total will be interesting.
I think the actual state of emergency Georgia's under ends May 13th as of today. Shelter in place right now is until the end of the month, but I'm thinking it might get extended two more weeks. Then I think they're going to attempt to facilitate a move toward the phase stages...now if we want to we can have these theories running around in our minds on if they're purposely not testing enough to slow things down.
But really I'm hoping about a month is enough for Georgia's major hospitals with at least the faster testing. They're doing a good job there.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
For those who didn't click on the link, it reveals that at least 75% of the CV-19 fatalities in NYC involve people with serious pre-existing conditions, like diabetes, lung disease, or cancer. 5891 people out of 7890 cases.
Only 0.5% of fatalities involved someone who was confirmed to have no pre-existing condition. 42 people out of 7890 cases.
The third category, as you noted, are the "unknowns." 1957 people out of 7890 cases.
All of the data is interesting. I hope folks will review it for themselves and draw their own conclusions.
If you've read my posts you'll know that I'm for opening every thing up ASAP......practicing responsible social distancing and wearing masks. Get businesses open and save jobs.
The death toll will unfortunately increase.....but it is what it is.
One issue I have.....and I know you don't mean it this way @AnotherDawg .. ... is sharing that a person died with pre existing conditions. I realize this distinction is needed for scientists and those making policies.
But preexisting conditions or not..... someones loved one died because of this virus. They may be obease, diabetic or have heart or lung disease......but they would probably still be here if it weren't for this **** virus.
I just wish that people would meet in the middle.
To those that want to keep everything shut down until things flatten out more......I realize you are afraid and are trying to protect lives. But the model simply isn't sustainable. And it doesn't matter what virus charts you show to prove your point. Shelter in place won't work in this country..... we are free people.
On the other hand... I don't understand why so many people that want to open things up down play this virus and still don't get the seriousness of it. I believe the Michigan governor is wrong and understand the frustrations. But why in the hell did all the protesters do it without social distancing and wearing protection. That was just **** and may have made matters worse in Michigan.
Shelter in place.....while effective in controlling the virus....is simply unrealistic and unsustainable.
But down playing the seriousness of this virus and choosing to not practice CDC recommendations is just ignorant.
Why can't common sense rule the day?
Glad to see you back here once again misrepresenting or misunderstanding simple facts.
It's funny how those who are the most confident are often those who know the least about what they're talking about. 2.2 trillion dollars went towards saving 2 million lives? No. Simply 100% wrong. Please do some research before spouting off about something you clearly know nothing about.
Doing good here. Hope the same for everyone else.
Be safe everyone, and of course...
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGS!
I am on the opposite side of this but 100% agree with your need to meet in the middle.
I haven't seen this mentioned before but one thing to consider is the impact that businesses will have on the demand for virus testing, masks and other PPE for employees. These resources are already inadequate to meet the needs of essential workers and patients. How many more nurses and doctors have to die.
I too think we will have to reopen somewhat before a vaccine is developed but the Federal government needs to use it's unique powers under DPA to first obtain sufficient quantities of those items necessary first to protect all front line workers and secondly to fulfill business needs.
For those interested I have been tracking the information below daily.
The 11 states tally 80%+/- of the cases and deaths to date. The number of tests in Ca, Tx and Ga are way too low to justify opening up IMO. Anything below 1000/100k means less than 1% of the states population have been tested. The "Invisible" enemy can only been detected through testing.
Also if anyone is interested, this is the link to the GA DOPH Covid-19 Dailey Status Report. It's updated daily at noon and 7 pm. Has some pretty good stats and graphs for Georgia..