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Do you stand for the National Anthem?
With all the controversy I was just wondering everyone's take.
Do you stand for the National Anthem? 53 votes
Yes, everyone should
71%
38 votes
No (insert your on reason)
5%
3 votes
I don't care either way
22%
12 votes
Comments
The only other country that has this kind of patriotism with both pledge of allegiance and national anthem is North Korea.. if athletes have a stage, and they want to peacefully protest, they have that right.. protesters helped end the Vietnam war.. as long as they are prepared to face the consequences.. pat Tillman called the us military war criminals for going in Iraq before he died.. we celebrate him.. part of loving your country is having the courage to stand up and question it... America is an idea, a constant search for a more perfect union..
Wow, and after giving me **** several times for bringing up anything he can stretch and call politics...
That right there sir, that is a rant.
I would be getting way too off topic if I gave my reasons, but I kneel every time for the pledge of allegiance since the latter part of 2016. My forefathers fought in the American revolution and the Civil War for the Union army. I believe in the principals they fought for.
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well, wild guess I would say this is a politically themed thread and the others were not?
To each there own,But remember a lot of great people passed for our freedom standing to me shows respect for our fallen heros My dad was a vet just like i was
Freedom to do what you want, and freedom to suffer the consequences ala Kapernick.
If you don't respect the flag or the anthem at the least you should respect the ones that gave the ultimate sacrifice so you could express your disrespect.
I am a vet and I really don't care if people stand, seat or take knee. I applaud kap for taking a knee for what he believes in. If he never did it we wouldnt be talking about it right now. There are people out their who still hate the fact the 2 black Olympians rasied their fist decades ago but that act shined a light on the injustices of that time and kap is doing the same.
A) this is a poorly written poll question
B ) we've got some open minded people around here. Considering the normal discussions that hover around this topic I was expecting it too be much more volatile.
Whether or not you stand for the national anthem isn't a political statement to a lot of people. Debating events that led to ending a war is another thing entirely.
But the post doesn't even bother me personally. It was just weird seeing a post like that from a guy scrounging the forum, fussing when I use the word media and assuming I meant political media and acting like I violated the posted board rules we got. But now he wants to debate what led to the end of the Vietnam war on here.
All poll questions are poorly worded. They debate endlessly over how even the professionally done polls should be worded.
I'm actually somewhere in between an "I don't care" and a "yes" on this poll. But the way the "yes" answer is worded, how it includes the word "should" I thought took it a little too far, so I went with "I don't care".
My feeling is I always stand, I wish others would but don't get upset if they are making a statement of some sort. On the other hand, it does bother me when people are talking and laughing during the playing. To me that is more disrespectful than not standing. There may be a meaningful reason for not standing...I can't find one for laughing and joking around.
I didn't mean to pigeonhole anyone with the way I wrote the question or the choices. I thought the question was pretty straight forward, KISS principle and all. Maybe my yrs answer was a little strong, as @levander pointed out. But either way, there are really only 3 choices, yes/no/don't care.
Since it doesn't meet your standards, how would you have written it?
I thought about it a little after typing that and decided I actually did like the way you wrote the question. Or more specifically, the answers. Like yeah, "yes, everyone should" is very strongly worded. But so is "I don't care either way". It's like if you're kind of between the two, it forces you to make a straight edged choice. And since the point of polls is to get an answer from pre-defined answers, that's what you want. Someone to have to make a well defined choice.
I mean it's a yes/no question right? Do you stand for the national anthem.
A) Yes
No
C) Sometimes
I think you tried to blend the answers into a different question and associate one thing with another. So you could say, "Do you take issue with people making a political/social statement during the national anthem"?
A.) yes
B.) no
C.) sometimes