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Billy Graham

AndersonDawgAndersonDawg Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

The World lost a good man today. I had the pleasure of attending a service he conducted in Phu Bai, Vietnam. He choppered in, conducted the service and choppered out. We appreciated him for ministering to the troops in an inhospitable environment.

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  • Wayxdawg4everWayxdawg4ever Posts: 40 ✭✭ Sophomore
    edited February 2018

    A very very principled man. He showed this country and world what a real Christian looks like. He was a trailblazer, a standard bearer and a man, whose name will be remembered forever.

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I regard him as one of my heroes. I had a chance to meet him during his last crusade here is Atlanta. Great man of God. Focused on integrity, compassion and a love for others.

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Almost weird seeing a high profile person in news for something different than sex scandals, lying, stealing, abuse, etc. I can't ever remember hearing anything bad about the guy. I can't claim to know much about him outside of the obvious, but you can tell he left a positive mark on the world.

    I appreciate anyone who commits their life to making this world a better place.

  • hootche10hootche10 Posts: 6 ✭ Freshman

    AndersonDawg, I was also at the service in Phu Bai, Vietnam in December 1968. Billy Graham and his group. George Beverly Shea sang "How Great Thou Art". Watching the news over the last two days we see newsreels of Billy Graham preaching all over the world but he also came to the combat zones in Vietnam and I don't think many folks realize that. A great and humble man. Thank you for your service.

  • AndersonDawgAndersonDawg Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    hootche10, thank you for your service as well. I was in Phu Bai from 9/68 - 11/69 (extended tour for a 5 month early out). I was with the 45th Engineers. I guess that makes us brothers and old men.

  • gdawg4lifegdawg4life Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    For the life of me I don't understand how someone could say the following about Billy Graham:

  • hootche10hootche10 Posts: 6 ✭ Freshman

    AndersonDawy, Indeed and old for sure.

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @gdawg4life said:
    For the life of me I don't understand how someone could say the following about Billy Graham:

    I wish I could say it’s unbelievable someone would post that. These are unfortunately the times we live in. It would be easy to say the post is for clicks and fame, but the reality is it takes a messed up person to drop to that level. It’s unfortunate, someone can’t fathom what he spent his life for. It’s even worse they can’t respect his life work because I like to think it wasn’t for publicity and more for this type of thinking.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 21,698 mod

    @gdawg4life said:
    For the life of me I don't understand how someone could say the following about Billy Graham:

    She’s trying to get a reaction out of you. Looks like she succeeded. Trying too hard to be funny on her part IMO

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @gdawg4life said:
    For the life of me I don't understand how someone could say the following about Billy Graham:

    She’s trying to get a reaction out of you. Looks like she succeeded. Trying too hard to be funny on her part IMO

    Probably so, but it still says something about her character.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 21,698 mod

    @dawfanfromalabam said:
    He was against gay rights, spoke horribly about Jews (pornographers and taking America down the drain and he would do something about it if had a position of power) in conversations with Nixon, lied (yes, lied repeatedly for years) about saying it until the Nixon tapes were released then begged for forgiveness.

    Not quit the “man above reproach” some would make him out to be but we’re all human and thus sinners. Be careful how you elevate “religious” leaders. Find God yourself.

    Wish I had more than one upvote to give this

  • gdawg4lifegdawg4life Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kasey said:

    @gdawg4life said:
    For the life of me I don't understand how someone could say the following about Billy Graham:

    She’s trying to get a reaction out of you. Looks like she succeeded. Trying too hard to be funny on her part IMO

    Oh I don't think she was trying to be funny. She truly feels that way.

  • amjadawgsamjadawgs Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I do my best as a Christian to not judge people and he very well may have been one of the strongest Christians of our time, but here’s a true story. My first wife had a sister, about 7-8 years old at the time who had scoliosis to the severe degree. She never got to spend not even one day of her lifetime at home. She was in a special hospital her entire life. My mother-n-law (as of then) wrote a letter to Graham asking to lift her in prayer. Now, I’ll be the first to admit that he himself likely never saw that letter, that it was likely read and responded to by someone in his PR room. But, nonetheless, the reply letter from him, in round about words said that if they would send money, she would be placed higher on the prayer chain. I’m sure he was a great man, but that kinda left a bad taste in my mouth for his ministry.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 6,807 mod

    @amjadawgs said:
    I do my best as a Christian to not judge people and he very well may have been one of the strongest Christians of our time, but here’s a true story. My first wife had a sister, about 7-8 years old at the time who had scoliosis to the severe degree. She never got to spend not even one day of her lifetime at home. She was in a special hospital her entire life. My mother-n-law (as of then) wrote a letter to Graham asking to lift her in prayer. Now, I’ll be the first to admit that he himself likely never saw that letter, that it was likely read and responded to by someone in his PR room. But, nonetheless, the reply letter from him, in round about words said that if they would send money, she would be placed higher on the prayer chain. I’m sure he was a great man, but that kinda left a bad taste in my mouth for his ministry.

    He had a net worth of $25 million. I don't consider preachers who seem to be more about money very Christian. WWJD... I think Jesus would donate almost all that money to good causes. People don't want to admit it, but most churches are there to make money. Religion, healthcare, and death are the easiest markets to take advantage of people for great financial gains. Sad, but true.

  • JRT812JRT812 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Interesting stuff in here. Heard a saying before " you want to make money... then start your own religion"

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You guys should read up more on Graham and his life. While his net worth may have been $25m (that is unknown), it was largely driven by book sales. He gave away up to $600,000 a year to charities. He lived a VERY modest life - in a ranch house for most of his life. He spent little. He had books audited constantly and never once was accused of financial, marital or ethical impropriety. The only “controversy” has to do with a comment he made about Jewish people and the media in the early 70s. It was ****, and he apologized for it and asked for forgiveness. He didn’t condone hatred of homosexuals. Quite the opposite. He said it was equal with other sins of lying, greed, lust, hatred, and such. He preached scripture - what do you expect? You guys can believe whatever you like, but read up on him before you start bashing a great man. The overwhelming consensus of every credible biographer and reporter who examined his life said time & again that he was he real deal. If you find faults with him, then congrats - he was the first to say he was a sinner. Anyway, back to sports...

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