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Oh I don't think she was trying to be funny. She truly feels that way.
I do my best as a Christian to not judge people and he very well may have been one of the strongest Christians of our time, but here’s a true story. My first wife had a sister, about 7-8 years old at the time who had scoliosis to the severe degree. She never got to spend not even one day of her lifetime at home. She was in a special hospital her entire life. My mother-n-law (as of then) wrote a letter to Graham asking to lift her in prayer. Now, I’ll be the first to admit that he himself likely never saw that letter, that it was likely read and responded to by someone in his PR room. But, nonetheless, the reply letter from him, in round about words said that if they would send money, she would be placed higher on the prayer chain. I’m sure he was a great man, but that kinda left a bad taste in my mouth for his ministry.
He had a net worth of $25 million. I don't consider preachers who seem to be more about money very Christian. WWJD... I think Jesus would donate almost all that money to good causes. People don't want to admit it, but most churches are there to make money. Religion, healthcare, and death are the easiest markets to take advantage of people for great financial gains. Sad, but true.
Interesting stuff in here. Heard a saying before " you want to make money... then start your own religion"
You guys should read up more on Graham and his life. While his net worth may have been $25m (that is unknown), it was largely driven by book sales. He gave away up to $600,000 a year to charities. He lived a VERY modest life - in a ranch house for most of his life. He spent little. He had books audited constantly and never once was accused of financial, marital or ethical impropriety. The only “controversy” has to do with a comment he made about Jewish people and the media in the early 70s. It was ****, and he apologized for it and asked for forgiveness. He didn’t condone hatred of homosexuals. Quite the opposite. He said it was equal with other sins of lying, greed, lust, hatred, and such. He preached scripture - what do you expect? You guys can believe whatever you like, but read up on him before you start bashing a great man. The overwhelming consensus of every credible biographer and reporter who examined his life said time & again that he was he real deal. If you find faults with him, then congrats - he was the first to say he was a sinner. Anyway, back to sports...
Not bashing him. It at least I didn’t read it that way. More suggesting we not lower our own selves to makes someone else look better. He did good/great things, but a hero is just a sandwich
So, we can't say what his estimated net worth was at the time of his death, but you're allowed to say what his estimated donations to charities were? Got it... Also, I'd donate $600,000/yr. if I was making millions too. I'd rather give to a charity and get that tax write off too, and it just makes you feel good to donate to a charity all while lowering taxes owed... I don't see anyone bad mouthing him per se, and I know preached a lot of good things, but let's not act like he wasn't out to make a buck either. I think we're just calling a spade a spade, and don't get blinded by religious leaders whose organizations are more interested in your donation than you as a person. But hey, at least if you donate, there's a chance you get moved up the prayer chain.
1 Like = 1 Prayer (I'll send my PayPal or Venmo info if you want to move up my prayer chain)
We can say what his net worth is if you know it. I was only saying it was estimated. As for the money, he lived a very modest and reasonable lifestyle. So, is the problem that he sold a lot of books or that he spent money on himself? The latter isn’t shown to be true. Read up on him, like I said. You may realize you are speaking about someone who deserves more respect than you are showing, especially considering that he died this week.
Joel Osteen.
If your organization asks for donations to get moved up the prayer chain, I think that's enough said. I would've said the same things I'm saying now whether he's alive or deceased. Obviously we are talking about him now, as it's a current event. His passing doesn't change my opinion. And I stated that he did many good things in this world, but I'd like to think most people would do good things for this world if they had millions upon millions coming into their charitable organization.
The heart tells me that guy is a snake in the grass
I’m very familiar with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Assn, and I’ve never, ever seen or heard of that happening before that post above. Ever. There’s no prayer pyramid or shady prayers based on money that have ever gone on there. Anyway, believe what you want.
I lived in Black mountain NC when Mr Graham's wife passed and I went to her funeral.
It's the only time I heard Billy speak in person. Even with a frail voice there was something special in it.
I actually liked him better as he mellowed with age than when he was a very self assured fire breather during his younger days.
He became far more humble and introspective in his later years.
I remember a comment he made to an MSNBC reporter that came to see him at his Montreat home around 2006. He was asked about any regrets or something he would do differently. He said he wish he'd spent more time reading The Bible and a bit less time preaching about it.
The worst is when these guys have million dollar personages they don’t pay taxes on. Reminds me of my grandfather as a baptist minister in this tiny home steps from the church that could fit inside some of these garages
Some do it for the mission and some do it for “other” reasons. Seeing the business behind the religion or true characters can put some people off.
Not saying that about you and speaking from personal experience