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Who is this years final 4?

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  • SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    UGA, Clemson, UW, MSU

  • VALDOSTADAWGVALDOSTADAWG Posts: 1,468 mod

    @SoFL_Dawg said:
    UGA, Clemson, UW, MSU

    Mississippi State, nice.

    kidding

  • AgDawgAgDawg Posts: 763 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    1 Clemson
    2 UGA/Bama
    3 Ohio State
    4 Washington

  • oldon42oldon42 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    I am not sure if it what the people want to see or not. I think it has more to do with advertising revenue and wanting to attract the big coastal cities.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bama (We could definitely be here)
    Washington (but of a vacuum out West)
    Clemson (I think largely unchallenged in ACC)
    Michigan (biggest beneficiary of OSU instability)

    I think we're right there, too but it is going to take some unusual circumstances to get 2 SEC teams in again. Big 12 looking like a bunch of 8-4 to 10-2 type teams knocking each other off.

  • sauceddawgsauceddawg Posts: 212 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    I doubt this is true. If they were caught colluding with advertisers and networks it'd be one of the biggest conspiracies ever. I don't think the committee is that ****, if they were it'd be the end of the CFP

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    TV ratings improved by 18% during last year's playoffs. And we all know TV ratings = $$$. Ticket sales? Stadiums were all sold out, always will be when you have a SEC team involved in the game. So, apparently a lot of people didn't mind watching two SEC teams dominate other conferences. Not trying to call you out, but nothing you said proves to be factual.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/9/16869172/playoff-tv-ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Teddy said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    TV ratings improved by 18% during last year's playoffs. And we all know TV ratings = $$$. Ticket sales? Stadiums were all sold out, always will be when you have a SEC team involved in the game. So, apparently a lot of people didn't mind watching two SEC teams dominate other conferences. Not trying to call you out, but nothing you said proves to be factual.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/9/16869172/playoff-tv-ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship

    That was not a rematch of the SEC championship. It involved two teams that had not faced each other, and especially not recently

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I do not think the committee will let there be a possibility of a repeat conference championship game happening in the playoff. Two teams from the same conference may go, like has happened previously.... but I do not believe it will be the two teams who played in that conferences conference championship

    The committee has messed up in my opinion by allowing teams into the playoffs who did not even play in their conference championship

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @Teddy said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    TV ratings improved by 18% during last year's playoffs. And we all know TV ratings = $$$. Ticket sales? Stadiums were all sold out, always will be when you have a SEC team involved in the game. So, apparently a lot of people didn't mind watching two SEC teams dominate other conferences. Not trying to call you out, but nothing you said proves to be factual.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/9/16869172/playoff-tv-ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship

    That was not a rematch of the SEC championship. It involved two teams that had not faced each other, and especially not recently

    Of the BCS era championship games, over those 16 years, the LSU vs. Bama (SECCG rematch) game is 10th out of 16 in the TV ratings. You'd think they'd be the last since it's a rematch, right? You know what the two worst games, ratings wise, were during the BCS era? 2002 Ohio State vs. Miami and 2005 Texas vs. USC. Some of the most historic programs turned out the worst TV ratings, which is pretty bizarre to me.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Teddy said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:

    @Teddy said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    TV ratings improved by 18% during last year's playoffs. And we all know TV ratings = $$$. Ticket sales? Stadiums were all sold out, always will be when you have a SEC team involved in the game. So, apparently a lot of people didn't mind watching two SEC teams dominate other conferences. Not trying to call you out, but nothing you said proves to be factual.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/9/16869172/playoff-tv-ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship

    That was not a rematch of the SEC championship. It involved two teams that had not faced each other, and especially not recently

    Of the BCS era championship games, over those 16 years, the LSU vs. Bama (SECCG rematch) game is 10th out of 16 in the TV ratings. You'd think they'd be the last since it's a rematch, right? You know what the two worst games, ratings wise, were during the BCS era? 2002 Ohio State vs. Miami and 2005 Texas vs. USC. Some of the most historic programs turned out the worst TV ratings, which is pretty bizarre to me

    That is pretty interesting

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I do not think the committee will let there be a possibility of a repeat conference championship game happening in the playoff. Two teams from the same conference may go, like has happened previously.... but I do not believe it will be the two teams who played in that conferences conference championship

    The committee has messed up in my opinion by allowing teams into the playoffs who did not even play in their conference championship

    Envision the following scenario: undefeated #2 UGA beats undefeated #1 Bama in the SEC title game in a close game. If you're the committee would you put both teams in at positions 1 and 4, respectively? It ensures a re-match but it also guarantees that re-match won't happen in the national title game. This assumes that the resumes of other teams lead the committee to the conclusion that UGA and Bama are 2 of the best 4 teams, of course.

  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PTDawg said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I do not think the committee will let there be a possibility of a repeat conference championship game happening in the playoff. Two teams from the same conference may go, like has happened previously.... but I do not believe it will be the two teams who played in that conferences conference championship

    The committee has messed up in my opinion by allowing teams into the playoffs who did not even play in their conference championship

    Envision the following scenario: undefeated #2 UGA beats undefeated #1 Bama in the SEC title game in a close game. If you're the committee would you put both teams in at positions 1 and 4, respectively? It ensures a re-match but it also guarantees that re-match won't happen in the national title game. This assumes that the resumes of other teams lead the committee to the conclusion that UGA and Bama are 2 of the best 4 teams, of course.

    In an 8 team playoff possibility, sure.... but with 5 conference champions I do not see it happening

    We need an 8 team playoff

  • HuskerDawgHuskerDawg Posts: 14 ✭ Freshman

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    Completely agree with this. UGA will not make the CFP if they run the table and lose to Bama in the SECCG. The only way they make it with one loss is if they win the SECCG OR they lose to South Carolina and run the table and miss out on the SECCG.

    It isn't talked about much, but IF UGA loses to USCjr (looking at USCjr's schedule), it is unlikely USCjr loses two conference games so they will probably represent the east. I could see them losing to Texas A&M, but thats about it. Their conference schedule is easy.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Teddy said:

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    I will say this, and I know it will be discussed more... but the loser of the SEC championship is NOT going to make the playoffs, even if that is their only loss

    The reason being is TV ratings, ticket sales.... and money..... This would mean a possible SEC championship rematch and that is not what people want to see. The winner of the SEC championship may go and the team with 1 loss that did not go to the SEC championship may go to the playoffs like last year.... but the loser of the SEC championship game will not go to the playoffs

    TV ratings improved by 18% during last year's playoffs. And we all know TV ratings = $$$. Ticket sales? Stadiums were all sold out, always will be when you have a SEC team involved in the game. So, apparently a lot of people didn't mind watching two SEC teams dominate other conferences. Not trying to call you out, but nothing you said proves to be factual.

    https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/9/16869172/playoff-tv-ratings-alabama-georgia-national-championship

    I don't think ticket sales and the real money maker, tv ratings, are weighed when choosing the top 4, I don't see any evidence of it.
    Why risk blowback when in the long run the unknowing is a huge reason sports are so captivating, they write their own scripts on the playing fields.

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