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Grayson players stage walkout

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  • BamaDawgBamaDawg Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • ghostofuga1ghostofuga1 Posts: 9,229 mod

    @BamaDawg said:
    Test

    Multiple choice?

  • dbrown7494dbrown7494 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Look when I was in high school we would do full contact to an extent where we wrap up and stay off the ground in shorts and T-shirt. It’s basivally like a 7v7. It sounds like these kids are soft. I guarantee they weren’t going to ground. These kids didn’t want to practice because they think they are great.

    I know about the Maryland situation and this is not it. It’s just kids who are soft and don’t want to work. Even when the coach is giving them a break by putting them in short and shirt. It was so bad parents and administration would have stepped in way quicker on the matter.

  • BoroDawgBoroDawg Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @VALDOSTADAWG said:
    Wanted to get y'all's opinion on this. BA mentioned it on the Podcast today. Nearly all the players walked out on practice in an attempt to get the Head Coach fired, because of practice conditions. Their season doesn't start until next Friday, but this is a terrible look for a top 10 nationally ranked high school football team.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/local-hs-football-team-stages-walkout-protesting-practice-conditions/814910678

    The clear potential for something like this to become a trend is why I started the thread about one of our players waving off a coach, now we've seen reports of a second player pushing back when asked to work harder.
    The situation at Maryland combined with the general trend of youth questioning authority has the potential to be very disruptive to programs.

    Without giving too much of myself away, I'm 62 and after shutting down my contracting business I decided to take a part time job. I was hired by a well known retail operation. I quickly learned some of the young employees were spoiled brats and management pandered to them. When a 23 year old man ( boy really) kept avoiding work I explained to him that I wasn't going to do both my job and his. The manager called me in and asked what I said to the punk, I was told the baby was almost in tears. I was given a ''verbal warning'', which oddly enough was written into my work record.
    I finished my shift and after sleeping on it I went in the next day, told the manager he was pandering to brats and ruining them to society and quit the job.

    WC, who was the second player pushing back?

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 18,975 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    These high-profile teams....aren’t there all kinds of parents, scouts and others pretty much at every practice?

  • DamnYankeeDawgDamnYankeeDawg Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @VALDOSTADAWG said:
    Wanted to get y'all's opinion on this. BA mentioned it on the Podcast today. Nearly all the players walked out on practice in an attempt to get the Head Coach fired, because of practice conditions. Their season doesn't start until next Friday, but this is a terrible look for a top 10 nationally ranked high school football team.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/local-hs-football-team-stages-walkout-protesting-practice-conditions/814910678

    The clear potential for something like this to become a trend is why I started the thread about one of our players waving off a coach, now we've seen reports of a second player pushing back when asked to work harder.
    The situation at Maryland combined with the general trend of youth questioning authority has the potential to be very disruptive to programs.

    Without giving too much of myself away, I'm 62 and after shutting down my contracting business I decided to take a part time job. I was hired by a well known retail operation. I quickly learned some of the young employees were spoiled brats and management pandered to them. When a 23 year old man ( boy really) kept avoiding work I explained to him that I wasn't going to do both my job and his. The manager called me in and asked what I said to the punk, I was told the baby was almost in tears. I was given a ''verbal warning'', which oddly enough was written into my work record.
    I finished my shift and after sleeping on it I went in the next day, told the manager he was pandering to brats and ruining them to society and quit the job.

    The good old verbal warning. Love these. The verbal warning always ends up in your file in the form of a written note or email documenting the warning. This is always the first check mark in your file when a manager and HR desire to cut you loose. Had you stayed, you would have been barraged with written warnings which would have ultimately led to your final written warning then termination. The cherry on top would have been the perp walk to the front door in front of your colleagues while you are carrying a small box with your personal effects. Seen it many times.

    Good thing you quit before you were unconditionally released.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DamnYankeeDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @VALDOSTADAWG said:
    Wanted to get y'all's opinion on this. BA mentioned it on the Podcast today. Nearly all the players walked out on practice in an attempt to get the Head Coach fired, because of practice conditions. Their season doesn't start until next Friday, but this is a terrible look for a top 10 nationally ranked high school football team.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/local-hs-football-team-stages-walkout-protesting-practice-conditions/814910678

    The clear potential for something like this to become a trend is why I started the thread about one of our players waving off a coach, now we've seen reports of a second player pushing back when asked to work harder.
    The situation at Maryland combined with the general trend of youth questioning authority has the potential to be very disruptive to programs.

    Without giving too much of myself away, I'm 62 and after shutting down my contracting business I decided to take a part time job. I was hired by a well known retail operation. I quickly learned some of the young employees were spoiled brats and management pandered to them. When a 23 year old man ( boy really) kept avoiding work I explained to him that I wasn't going to do both my job and his. The manager called me in and asked what I said to the punk, I was told the baby was almost in tears. I was given a ''verbal warning'', which oddly enough was written into my work record.
    I finished my shift and after sleeping on it I went in the next day, told the manager he was pandering to brats and ruining them to society and quit the job.

    The good old verbal warning. Love these. The verbal warning always ends up in your file in the form of a written note or email documenting the warning. This is always the first check mark in your file when a manager and HR desire to cut you loose. Had you stayed, you would have been barraged with written warnings which would have ultimately led to your final written warning then termination. The cherry on top would have been the perp walk to the front door in front of your colleagues while you are carrying a small box with your personal effects. Seen it many times.

    Good thing you quit before you were unconditionally released.

    So. that makes you a free agent, right? Hope you can find a good deal out there!!

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BoroDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @VALDOSTADAWG said:
    Wanted to get y'all's opinion on this. BA mentioned it on the Podcast today. Nearly all the players walked out on practice in an attempt to get the Head Coach fired, because of practice conditions. Their season doesn't start until next Friday, but this is a terrible look for a top 10 nationally ranked high school football team.

    https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/local-hs-football-team-stages-walkout-protesting-practice-conditions/814910678

    The clear potential for something like this to become a trend is why I started the thread about one of our players waving off a coach, now we've seen reports of a second player pushing back when asked to work harder.
    The situation at Maryland combined with the general trend of youth questioning authority has the potential to be very disruptive to programs.

    Without giving too much of myself away, I'm 62 and after shutting down my contracting business I decided to take a part time job. I was hired by a well known retail operation. I quickly learned some of the young employees were spoiled brats and management pandered to them. When a 23 year old man ( boy really) kept avoiding work I explained to him that I wasn't going to do both my job and his. The manager called me in and asked what I said to the punk, I was told the baby was almost in tears. I was given a ''verbal warning'', which oddly enough was written into my work record.
    I finished my shift and after sleeping on it I went in the next day, told the manager he was pandering to brats and ruining them to society and quit the job.

    WC, who was the second player pushing back?

    I wasn't the one who first posted about him and I can't recall who it was at this moment.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PTDawg said:
    According to the article the players were upset about going full contact in shorts and no pads. I can see where that might not be the best idea. I agree with many of the points being made in this thread, though, in terms of work ethic.

    It also makes me wonder where were the parents, other coaches, trainers, etc that it got to this point? How did it get all the way to a planned team walk out?

    I find it extremely doubtful they went full contact in shorts. Rugby players don't go full contact because human nature and training informs them they would cripple each other rather quickly. I'm betting it's a big exaggeration inspired by the Maryland situation and the general feminization of our society.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Since I haven’t been able to post in a few days, at least it saved my draft... The main concern seems to be they didn’t have their leg pads on, since they were in shorts, and were going full contact. I think I’d just ask to go put pants and leg pads on and come back. I’m assuming there’s more to the story, or they just don’t like their coach.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2018

    @Teddy said:
    Since I haven’t been able to post in a few days, at least it saved my draft... The main concern seems to be they didn’t have their leg pads on, since they were in shorts, and were going full contact. I think I’d just ask to go put pants and leg pads on and come back. I’m assuming there’s more to the story, or they just don’t like their coach.

    The coach prior to the current one, Jeff Herron, was golden. Big shoes to fill. Not sure the current guy measures up the his predecessor. That guy is a HOF coach (at least in HS). I can see the players saying "we did it this way when coach Herron was here and we won a state title doing it his way".

  • scooterdawgscooterdawg Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @pgjackson said:
    These high-profile teams....aren’t there all kinds of parents, scouts and others pretty much at every practice?

    Sadly the parents might not intervene unless it was something obviously detrimental to their kids. From pretty much devouring anything college football from QB1(the Martell kid whose parents moved the whole family to Vegas for him to go to a private version of Grayson) to a story I read yesterday about the next supposed USC big time QB(his parents had him repeat a grade to be ready for high school ball and he skipped his whole senior year to be able to go to USC early), and many others, the parents are not always seemingly looking out for their kids in a way I’d personally think I would if I had a kid.

    With Grayson allegedly recruiting players in shady ways with the full knowledge of their families, I’d not be surprised if a lot of these parents are a bit too wrapped up in their kids’ football lives, and might have the just **** it up and you’ll get a good college offer frame of mind. Or they could be just entitled kids, also probably due in part to their parents making their lives all about football.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2018

    @donm said:

    @Teddy said:
    Since I haven’t been able to post in a few days, at least it saved my draft... The main concern seems to be they didn’t have their leg pads on, since they were in shorts, and were going full contact. I think I’d just ask to go put pants and leg pads on and come back. I’m assuming there’s more to the story, or they just don’t like their coach.

    The coach prior to the current one, Jeff Herron, was golden. Big shoes to fill. Not sure the current guy measures up the his predecessor. That guy is a HOF coach (at least in HS). I can see the players saying "we did it this way when coach Herron was here and we won a state title doing it his way".

    Herron has been ultra successful in a least 3 high schools now. He left Grayson for a higher paying HC job in SC and immediately turned it around. Interestingly Herron was the 2nd straight Grayson HC to leave for a position in South Carolina. Micky Conn took a job as Clemson's DB coach.

  • Raiderbeater1Raiderbeater1 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PTDawg said:
    According to the article the players were upset about going full contact in shorts and no pads. I can see where that might not be the best idea. I agree with many of the points being made in this thread, though, in terms of work ethic.

    It also makes me wonder where were the parents, other coaches, trainers, etc that it got to this point? How did it get all the way to a planned team walk out?

    We “popped” in shells. No bottom pads. You just weren’t allowed to tackle to the ground. It was awesome when we were only in shells.

    They “popping” in shells or actual playing football?

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    scooterdawg

    Sadly the parents might not intervene unless it was something obviously detrimental to their kids.

    That’s how it is supposed to be. One problem with kids are the parents who DO intervene when they shouldnt.

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