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Red shirting Fields next year.

levander

I know, I know. It’s not in Kirby’s nature.

But with the new rule that red shirts can play in four games, and the increasing likelihood that Jake will go pro after year 3, doesn’t it make sense to red shirt Fields for a year?

That way we got a possible 3 years of Fields starting...

How likely is it that Fields goes pro as a high round draft pick after just two years of starting? How many quarterbacks have done that in the past? (Serious question I don’t know the answer to).

So maybe after year 2 of his starting, Justin is a mid round draft pick. But he decides to stay a third year to be a high round draft pick?

The reason you don’t red shirt Fields this year is you want him to be ready to play if Jake goes down.

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SoFL_Dawg

One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

levander

@SoFL_Dawg said:
One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

There’s always an anecdote. But how common is it?

levander

I bet DJ Shockley would have gone earlier than the 7th round if he had started more than one year. He was a 5* recruit out of high school.

David Greene went in the third round. And no one thought he had the natural talent DJ had. But David was able to develop it on the field.

SoFL_Dawg

@levander said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

There’s always an anecdote. But how common is it?

Off top of head Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers (2 years), Tannehill I believe was a starter for season and half. I’m sure a google search will help you out. If the talent is there, one year is all it takes.

SoFL_Dawg

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@levander said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

There’s always an anecdote. But how common is it?

Off top of head Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers (2 years), Tannehill I believe was a starter for season and half. I’m sure a google search will help you out. If the talent is there, one year is all it takes.

Even throw Cardale Jones in there...didn’t he play half a season?

Kasey

@levander said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

There’s always an anecdote. But how common is it?

2016: Jared Goff (1), Paxton Lynch (32), and Carson Wentz (2) all started multiple years
2015: Jameis (1) started 2 years, Mariota (2) started 3 seasons
2014: Blake Bortles (3) started 2 seasons, Johnny Manziel (22) started 2 seasons, Teddy Bridgewater (32) started 2 seasons
2013: EJ Manuel (16) started 2 seasons

I think very recent history shows that it's better for your bottom line to start multiple seasons of college. If Jake goes pro after next season and holds off Fields for the job, he would be better served financially to stay all four years. Could his intangibles move him up the draft board...sure. However it may be best if he starts at least 2 seasons to ensure a high draft number

Kasey

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@levander said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

There’s always an anecdote. But how common is it?

Off top of head Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers (2 years), Tannehill I believe was a starter for season and half. I’m sure a google search will help you out. If the talent is there, one year is all it takes.

Even throw Cardale Jones in there...didn’t he play half a season?

He should've gone pro after the championship game

JayDog

Though I think Fields should be a redshirt, I think it unlikely. Hard to sit him a year without an injury.

But on pro prospects, if Justin comes in and lights it up in his junior season, he will be a first round pick. I haven't seen him play, but if what people say about him physically and mentally is true, he just needs to prove he knows how to use it against top teams.

Red_N_Black

While we're at it, Matt Cassell played for 4 seasons at USC. Never started one game at QB. Completed a total of 20 career passes for 192 yards and 0 TDs. Was drafted in the 7th round and played 13 seasons (and counting) in the NFL completing 1571 passes for 17,449 yards and 104 TDs. Just goes to prove "You never know"

PharmDawg2054

I have to believe the Kirby Smart and Coley want to get 4-5 years out of these two amazing QB’s. The only way for that to happen is first for Fromm to start now in 2018 and 2019 and then Fields in 2020 and 2021. In a dream situation Fields takes a redshirt in 2019 (can still play in 4 games) and then starts in 2020, 2021 and 2022

I do not see why Fields would be so upset with a redshirt though his sophomore year? Regardless he is not the starter until the following season and it would not inhibit the year in which he is eligible to go to the draft... it just gives him an extra year to play college ball if he wants to do it.

We will all see how Fromm does this year, but if he does as good as most of us think... Fields will not be the starter in 2019

christopherules

@georgiaboy said:

@WCDawg said:
It wouldn't make sense in several ways.
He will be needed.
He won't be around 5 years if he pans out.
He likely doesn't want to RS.

@christopherules said:
Why would a very, very high 5 star, & the #2 overall QB, & the #1 Dual threat QB coming out of high school in Justin Fields want to go to a football program to redshirt?? It’s a nice dream to want to keep him around, but that’s simply not going to happen. Keeping both QB Jake Fromm & QB Justin Fields for ALL of their eligibility would be absolutely awesome, it’s just highly, highly unlikely for that’s going to take place for either one of these incredible QB’s. GO DAWGS!!!

Fields said in his own words that he didn't mind coming to UGA and redshirting to learn the system. I don't think he will but for the 2 of you to say he doesn't want to goes directly against what the kid said.

@georgiaboy great point sir. You are quite correct. My point is everything is important to everyone. Fields NEEDS to say & do the right things. I’m pretty certain he actually does not want to redshirt, but if he does???? FREAKING WOW!!

insertusernamehere

Saturday can’t get here fast enough!!! How many times has this same topic been discussed on this forum this summer??
We all have our opinions, half of us are wrong, and it’s not our decision! It was fun for a while, but, man, I can’t wait till there are games to discuss!!

levander

@SoFL_Dawg said:

@levander said:

@SoFL_Dawg said:
One year of great tape will get him drafted in the first round. Sometimes a “good” year with upside gets you drafted in first round. See Mitchell Trubisky in 17 draft. Went #2 overall after only starting 13 games.

There’s always an anecdote. But how common is it?

Off top of head Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers (2 years), Tannehill I believe was a starter for season and half. I’m sure a google search will help you out. If the talent is there, one year is all it takes.

I guess, that’s the thing. How long does it take the talent to develop?

The guys you listed only needed one year. But can you count on one year being enough? Can you individually count in two years?

I’m sure there’s plenty of people in here sold on the hype that one year is more than enough for Justin. Two years might even be too much time.

Matthew Stafford wasn’t very good for a year and half. Then he took off at the end of his second year. I wonder what round he would have gone in if he could have gone after year 2? But one year would not have been enough for Stafford. It took on field time for him to develop. Otherwise I imagine the first part of his second year would have gone better.

levander

@insertusernamehere said:
Saturday can’t get here fast enough!!! How many times has this same topic been discussed on this forum this summer??
We all have our opinions, half of us are wrong, and it’s not our decision! It was fun for a while, but, man, I can’t wait till there are games to discuss!!

To me the thread is really about what it takes a college player to develop, especially quarterbacks, and how to mange your roster. If you want to look at it very shallow, yeah it’s more of the same Justin vs Jake.

WCDawg

@donm said:

@dawgnms said:
Only redshirt he will see is game days at Sanford

Isn't it possible he might like college, want to get a degree and "Stay, just a little bit longer" (Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs). ?

Not likely, but possible I suppose.