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Are you serious? I'm not going down that rabbit hole, but you've missed the point.
It's a classic lawyers' trick. The tactic of compartmentalizing a single piece of disputed or controversial information with respect to a much larger and straight-forward situation. Then expanding the importance or relevance of that piece of information out of proportion to all the other established evidence....because it's one of the few things that you can actually dispute. It's just another form of misdirection....in an attempt to fool people into doubting undisputed facts and the larger truth.
It's what OSU fans are doing in this case. Amusingly, it's what Bankwalker is doing by focusing on the "mother's comment" re the disputed DV allegation instead of the numerous instances of deception, omission, and cover-up that Meyer has been found to have done. Even if some piece of exculpatory evidence comes to light in the DV case in favor of Zach Smith (I'm not holding my breath)....it will not exonerate Meyer's conduct as described in the investigation report. None of Meyer's misdeeds in that report were contingent upon Zach Smith's guilt or innocence in the DV allegation.
No, I have absolutely nothing to say about the other 90% of your post. It was a waste of your time to type it out. You led off by saying it’s very hard to understand how people can defend Meyer or the University. I gave a simple response as to why the OSU people are continuing to do so, which is different from me saying I believe those things. . I didn’t have to read very far in to the novel that you had written to realize that you were going over the pyramid of evidence against urban Meyer, trying to argue that case with me. I stopped reading when I realized you were trying to change what I had said. Copy your post and save it for an OSU fan, because you make valid points.
You are exhibiting a 7th grade reading level. Im not focusing on anything. OSU fans are focusing on it, and if this happened in Athens the same would be true of a great many loyal Dawg fans. You said you didnt understand. I simply gave you THEIR perspective, not my own.
Here ya go. I shouldnt have to point this out to you but try to remember someone else wrote this, not me.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thespun.com/college-football/urban-meyer-not-believe-courtney-smith/amp
Meyer protected his boy, OSU protected theirs. Karma is a beyotch and he’ll get his so let’s move on.
Oh, ok. Is that like "I have a "friend" that has a problem..." I think that you previously noted having a personal history with abuse allegations that you feel were unwarranted or unjust, and that is coloring your own perspective. Understandable.
I stand by my original point that it's intellectually dishonest for a person who's read the report to claim lack of understanding or confusion about Meyer's punishment. It's fully described by Ohio State's own investigators in the factual findings. Have you read it? Maybe you don't like to read, as my "novel" was too much for you. But if you're going to jump into the conversation, perhaps you should have a baseline knowledge of the discussion points.
Furhman was a dishonest fool, OJ Simpson cut off his wife's head, both are true.
Crap walks away clean in this life more than we like to admit. The dishonest from cheats to true sociopaths see this clearer than most honest people. We have a POTUS who thrives on this truth.
To Meyer...
Sorry. Did you start this thread hoping for 15 people to say, "Agreed" and move on? This has nothing to do with me. I made a valid and accurate point regarding the thinking of OSU fans. I even said you made valid points. That wasnt enough for you? I dont understand your reason for being so emotional over having a different point of view presented. Some of you people....
I don’t place more faith in the mother’s comments because 1.) she wasn’t there, 2.) although Meyers story earlier was “nothing happened,” not even OSU or Meyer is sticking by that story any more, and a lesser one for me is 3.) what was her motivation for talking to the media? Maybe if I were intimately involved somehow. But that’s the last thing I’d want to do in her case.
I know. The whole deal with the mother is a red herring, and in my opinion, part of an orchestrated attempt by Meyer's inner circle and OSU PR folks, including his hack ghost-writer Jeff Snook, to smear Courtney Smith. Other stories floated out there: she's insane; she's a drunk; she called the police 66 times over a year, she's vowed to take down the entire program!!... Interestingly, in the investigation report, when her version of events is pitted against Meyer's version of events, the investigators find Courtney Smith more credible.
But, again, this whole point is irrelevant with respect to the misdeeds for which Meyer is being suspended.
It's all pretty much moot at this point unless the NCAA has any interest.....which is very doubtful.
Ouch!!
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/column-urban-liar-perfect-symbol-college-athletics-211938391--ncaaf.html