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Covid-19
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Umm...some of y'all are apparently unaware of why the flu and coronavirus are different. I guess they legit don't show Italy on Fox News. The quarantines over there aren't the story. It's the way the hospital systems are overwhelmed. The flu season is over a # of months...so people trickle in to Dr..ERs..etc. The people who ARE seriously affected are put in intensive care. Some still die with this specialized care.
In an outbreak where there's 100s or 1000s coming into the same hospitals there isn't that luxury. Not enough beds, DRs, nurses, meds. There's hospitals in Italy already where Drs are having to triage between who is worth trying to save by putting on a respirator and who's a lost cause.
I'm also amazed that none of y'all know a single person who is elderly or might have underlying health issues that increase risk...for instance diabetes. Guess I'm the only one worried about friends and relatives. Oh, and if you're young and healthy and only feel like you have a mild cold so can't be bothered to stay home, you'll be fully capable of spreading it to those who ARE at risk.
I felt the same way until I listened to Joe Rogan’s Latest podcast with Michael Osterholm. Changed my tune real quick. Not so much about death but about supply chains being disrupted due to quarantine and sickness etc..
I agree with that. All this self-quarantine and hyper-precautious nonsense, pushed by the media and peer-pressure, will cause much more damage than the virus itself. That part is self-induced damage due to sensationalism. People are going to get sick...that can not be stopped. But nobody wants to be the organization that "forced" its employees or students to show up and someone go sick. I guarantee people will start throwing around lawsuits if they get sick. "My company made me go to work, and I got the Coronavirus..."...that would be an HR nightmare.
But we aren't talking about SARS, we are talking about Corona-virus. While you are correct (i think) in saying it's somewhat related to that virus, you would be incorrect in assuming it follow the same seasonal patterns. It's still to early to know if will or not. If what @Bankwalker said about Australia isn't seeing a lot of person to person transmission within the country, I'd say that's a great sign. Especially for America which is about to hit spring.
This thread has seemed to turn into the optimists vs the pessimists. With everyone being both right and wrong. I have assumptions about what will happen, but I really don't know for sure. Since many people in china got it and survived I'm leaning toward the optimist side that things will be ok. Does that mean carry on as if nothing happened? No, of course you should take extra precautions for you and your loved ones.
Does the media control China, Italy, the rest of Europe, australia, South Korea, the WHO, and the CDC? Just how far does this conspiracy go? What purpose does it serve?
I have not heard of false positives being an issue. The CDC is currently being very restrictive to who they even allowed to be tested. We've had several people show up with coughing, feeling bad, fevers, etc. But many of them were ruled out as they had cellulitis, or were positive for the flu. We had 1 patient that qualified for the real test. But it's a send off and it takes a couple of days for the results, we have not heard back yet but I think they were just tested yesterday. So maybe by tomorrow we will know.
P.S. The one patient we were allowed to test was not admitted to the hospital, they went home and are on a "self quarantine" for now.
And "the media" also includes a very popular "news" network that's about as all in on the current admin as possible that just happens to be the only national OR international media outlet that's devoting hours of time and their big names to downplaying the risk of the virus.
So we have every major media outlet in the US save one, the WHO, the BBC and foreign media, and legions of doctors who have no dog in the fight on one side telling us to be worried as hell....and then we have Fox News where you hear that it's just the flu and can literally find any of their hour show pundits saying that it's just the evil Dems trying to get Trump.
Exactly
The structural proteins between SARS-COV and SARS-COV-2 are highly conserved. The big differences are in the accessory proteins which typically modulate the immune response. SARS-COV, MERS-COV, and past pandemics are the best examples we have for how SARS-COV-2 will behave seasonally. None of these things suggest COVID-19 will abate with warmer weather. It will only get better with public health measures.
With all said in this thread, can I still eat red meat cooked medium rare?
If you don't, you're a **** commie bastard
Lol bastard and ass are both not censored?
Yes but avoid Chinese food.
Yes, all the way, Illuminati
From the CDC website...guess they're trying to get clicks:
What May Happen
More cases of COVID-19 are likely to be identified in the United States in the coming days, including more instances of community spread. It’s likely that at some point, widespread transmission of COVID-19 in the United States will occur. Widespread transmission of COVID-19 would translate into large numbers of people needing medical care at the same time. Schools, childcare centers, and workplaces, may experience more absenteeism. Mass gatherings may be sparsely attended or postponed. Public health and healthcare systems may become overloaded, with elevated rates of hospitalizations and deaths. Other critical infrastructure, such as law enforcement, emergency medical services, and sectors of the transportation industry may also be affected. Healthcare providers and hospitals may be overwhelmed. At this time, there is no vaccine to protect against COVID-19 and no medications approved to treat it. Nonpharmaceutical interventions would be the most important response strategy.
Dr. Fauci, the expert who speaks after Trump at the press conferences:
Edit: A quick search could find much more alarmist takes from experts but if you don't trust the CDC then IDK what to tell ya.