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  • DvilleDawgDvilleDawg Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2020
  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Kudos to those fighting on the front lines of a lot of uncertainty. You folks are showing the bravery of the firemen who entered the WTC on 9/11.

    @Kasey the blog you linked was interesting. It definitely supports what the doctors I know have theorized would be the ultimate statistical outcome. One of those physicians does not think very much of epidemiologists, explaining they struggle to understand the effect of the medical community over time to alter the course.

    The harsh measures haven’t been in place domestically for any where near long enough to influence any numbers.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sounds like a cytokine storm. Crazy strong immune response leads to too much inflammation causing fluid build up in the lungs. It can happen really fast. If the flu gets bad, it kills the lung tissue from making so many copies of itself the cells get overwhelmed.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sorry. I actually dis tryto find another news source to link instead of this one, but it’s hard to find anything positive on any of the others

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DvilleDawg. Scared was kind of the point of that article. It recklessly talks about “patients in their 40s” as if they are the norm and not the outliers. The sample size of patients in their 40’s with Covid that particular respiratory specialist has seen is tiny. What (I think) is important to remember about the people they reference with “no underlying medical conditions” is that they don’t actually know that to be an accurate assumption. Inflammation might be the single biggest killer among humans because of the domino effect it has on the body, but it is a condition that remains largely invisible, and to which many are susceptible and suffering.

    If the (very limited) drug study out of France stands up, then hopefully this will be over soon. Keep the positive thoughts flowing!!!!.

  • DvilleDawgDvilleDawg Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm doing my part. Working from home. I actually started stocking up on canned goods and dried beans a couple of weeks before it hit the fan. Too bad I didn't buy toilet paper. What bothers me is there are still too many people that aren't taking this seriously. No one should drown in their own body fluids because somebody didn't care enough to listen to the experts.

  • pocoyopocoyo Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2020

    There has always been a "if it bleeds, it leads" thing in the news world. It's not new nor is it a right or left thing It's just that they're there to get viewers/clicks because it is a business and that's what people gravitate to. I think it's important to always, but especially now, read things with a very critical mindset.

  • DvilleDawgDvilleDawg Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I gave up on mainstream media about 3 years ago. This was from somebody that works with these patients every day. I pay attention to the people on the front lines over anybody.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Harvey Weinstein has COVID-19.

  • MarkBoknechtMarkBoknecht Posts: 1,495 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2020

    Destindawg, you lost me with the whole "USA is on the same trajectory as Italy" thing. Thanks to CaliforniaDawg, the graph indicates 15 days out we're at around 200 fatalities, Italy around 850. I guess charts and graphs were never your thing.

    Or is there something in the water down there?

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 17,645 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Anytime someone says we are comparable to Italy I tune them out. it's an absurd comparison. Italy is a dumpster fire. Italy and Spain are extreme outliers in Europe.

  • DirtDawgDirtDawg Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm going to try to keep up with my daughter during "Homeschool PE" class tomorrow... last week nearly did me in.

  • skidmarksskidmarks Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sat morn .... got up early and reading about the virus .... came across the French data where they treated Covid 19 patients with several drugs that had significant positive outcomes ... one was the malaria drug hydroxy chloroquine.... said was also prescribed to Rh Arthritis patients ....of which my wife is one ..so when she got up I asked her if she had ever taken Plaquenil ( hydroxy chloroquine) ....she yes ever day for Rh .... well she is well on her way to being ahead of any potential infection ....reassuring. The best response in the French study was Plaquenil + Z Pak. ..... for 5 days

  • CaliforniaDawgCaliforniaDawg Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That's right. We are not nearly as bad off as Italy, especially when you take into account the population size of Italy vs the US. If I had to rank countries right now, I'd say Italy, Spain and Iran are in a clear category of awful by themselves. Then I'd say there is a category of countries that we can't really evaluate yet or are in the middle including the US, UK, China. Then, the two countries that by far seem to be doing the best are South Korea and Iceland. But, this analysis is in the moment and just like the halftime score, things can change by the end of the game.

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