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  • Raiderbeater1Raiderbeater1 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Assumptions never seem to work out. We also have to take a “fired” and disgruntled employee’s (that isn’t the lone person in Florida working on this) Word with a grain of salt. It’s a lot of people working on this....one person saying they hide info? Maybe....but if we are playing the “assume” game then I assume she may be a disgruntled employee.

  • flemingislanddawgflemingislanddawg Posts: 620 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2020

    I can tell you my wife works in a hospital in the Jacksonville FL area and they are cutting hours and just announced that there will be no pay increases this year. Definitely not a flood of patients here. To add she is an RN in the NICU but all departments are cutting hours and no bonuses and they cut the COVID premium pay when on-call. And they are put on-call quite a bit.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    There's crap like this going on all over the place, because there is too much at stake and the legacy and careers of politicians (professional liars) are on the line. When manipulating the truth is as normal as blinking or breathing, then its a no-brainer that this stuff would happen.

    Gosh, I just read that and realized that this stuff has made be quite the skeptic. I apologize for the negativity...

    Raining cats and dogs here in SC. We are finishing up the "school year" at school making sure all the "i's" and "t's" are taken care of.

    We are having graduation Friday - bout 250 people in an auditorium that seats 2500, all doors propped open, hand-san everywhere, everyone acting like Sheldon.

    For those interested, the National High School Federation made their first statements yesterday. It's worth looking up:

    https://www.nfhs.org/media/3812287/2020-nfhs-guidance-for-opening-up-high-school-athletics-and-activities-nfhs-smac-may-15_2020-final.pdf

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I wonder if they realize deep cleaning doesn't prevent human-to-human transmission. Also "lack of transparency" shows up again. If people want to make the argument that everyone should be free to choose to go back to work or back to society in general, then we should be given all the information to make an informed decision. That shouldn't be a controversial, political opinion.

  • JoelSidneyKellyJoelSidneyKelly Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'll bet in the red states "all the information" sounds like Six Flags and in blue states "all the information" sounds like Chernobyl.

    A political consultant once told me, "I can pay an engineer to say whatever I want." And they do it. Every day. Every single day. Republicans. Democrats. Any one who thinks one party is "cleaner" than another is naive.

    The narrative has become a political game. Statistics are being fabricated in some places and withheld in others leaving the Google educated experts to boil the argument down to "which is better: FoxNews or CNN?"

    Everyone's perspective is biased. Even mine. Even yours. I don't have a problem with that. It makes the world a better place...

    ...sometimes.

  • ghostofuga1ghostofuga1 Posts: 9,214 mod

    I thank the Lord everyday that I gave up being affiliated with any political party. My own thoughts brought my independence of all beliefs, including politics. I don't follow herd mentality.......

  • CaliforniaDawgCaliforniaDawg Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You are right to be cynical about politics. I have worked for a congressman and worked on multiple congressional campaigns for folks from one political party. I have run for office and ran statewide campaigns for the other major party. I am one of the few people I know who has this experience on both sides. And, both parties play extremely dirty - both to the other party, yes, but even dirtier is the internal politics - again on both sides. Both do whatever they have to in order to promote themselves and survive at the expense of our people and our country. I am not deceitful enough to do well in that world. In fact, I was told that I was too honest by folks on both sides who liked me and were trying to help. It was surreal hearing that about a noble pursuit that my family has been involved with for 400 years to the year in this nation, dating back obviously to before it was a nation.

    But then, in these confusing Covid19 times, I turn outside of politics. To ministers who aren't political, to actors who aren't political, to community leaders who aren't political, to health care workers who aren't political and I see heroic acts of selfness, great positive attitudes and for me a partially refound faith in humanity.

    But beyond today or even our nation's history, humans have thousand, perhaps millions of years of history consisting of acts of kindess intertwined with ruthless deceipt, brutality and selfishiness among those who rise to leadership. Why is this? I don't understand the dichomoty.

    Regarding Covid19, I think it is absolutely essential to dig into any situation in which data is presenting in a confusing manner, someone is fired, the logic of a statement doesn't match the situation, etc. We are fighting an enemy that requires coordination among all of us and politicans are still squabbling to divide us when we need a united front now more than ever. Questioning a politician should first and foremost be something we do with a politician we voted for and not just as a way of having a gotcha moment for someone we didn't vote for. If we voted for someone, they are responsible to us and it is our job to make sure of it. I really, really dislike the norms today in which those someone votes for can do no wrong and those someone votes against can do no right. We should hold those we vote for to a higher standard than those we vote against and not engage in tribalism. And if anyone on this forum questions something analytically, I think that is great - it doesn't matter to me if it is a liberal or a conservative questioning a liberal or conservative leader - it doesn't matter! GrayDawg, Denman and many others have questioned things and this is a healthy part of living in a democracy. Others get on here and are just an echo chamber of ranting for the deceitful politicians manipulating people like puppets.

    Until we stop diving ourselves, we won't beat Covid19 and we won't elect people who speak to a greater good, but instead will be stuck with those who are really skilled at lying, manipulating and dividing us. In football, we praise Kirby Smart. In politics, we elect the equivalent of Jeremy Pruitt. I think we'd fix a lot of what is broken with more folks like Kirby Smart and less people like Pruitt in poliitcs. It would also help us both take Covid19 seriously and get our economy back on track.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The key here will be mid June. Much has been made of the 5% Fl decline in the 2 weeks since reopen v 2 weeks prior. In reality the decline is due to the social distancing that occurred during the lock-down and the cases may increase in the next 2 weeks followed by hospitalizations increasing early/mid June and deaths up in the last 2 weeks of June. Hope I'm wrong but that's how it works unless the seasonal factor kicks in.

  • AnotherDawgAnotherDawg Posts: 6,762 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I believe the models predict that some uptick/backsliding is practically guaranteed whenever and wherever shelter orders are lifted, so I imagine your fears are well founded. I just hope we don't overreact when it happens and start shutting things down again. Because if that happens, we will be in a world of pain (economically, politically, and culturally) far worse than anything that has happened so far.

  • LORLOR Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Hopefully testing will be at a point where we could trace and isolate clusters. I’m with you - I don’t think people could withstand another large scale closing (fill in the blanks for the reasons why).

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