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  • razorachillesrazorachilles Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Day late but not sure if anyone caught this article in the NY Post this weekend...I had heard of the Hong Kong flu but didn't really know when it occurred (late 60s) or how deadly it was (coronavirus that killed an estimated 1-4 million (H3N2) people worldwide). I was struck that we've heard/read a lot about comparisons to Spanish flu in early 20th century but not as much about a similar pandemic that occurred more recently in our collective living history.

    Attempt isn't to necessarily compare the virus itself to C19, but rather society's response to it. Understanding access to global travel has made the world more susceptible to global pandemics in general vs 50 years ago, but some striking highlights:

    • Highly contagious coronavirus originated in Hong Kong and brought to mainland US via returning sailors
    • There were virtually no restrictions to commerce, interstate travel or trade outside of some businesses having to temporarily shut down because too many people called in sick with the flu for a period (days)
    • Societal/national attitudes re: death at the time were different than today with most Americans having either served or had a family member who served/perished in WWII, Korea or Vietnam. Attitudes towards immunology were different where mothers would organize chicken pox parties to get the neighborhood kids infected early and all at once to "get it over with".
    • Woodstock (300K strong) happened in the summer in between the first and second waves
    • Both President Johnson and VP Hubert Humphrey contracted the virus and survived, Hollywood starlet Tallulah Bankhead and ex-CIA director Allen Dulles contracted it and died.
    • Loved this one: "The idea that a pandemic could be controlled with social distancing and public lockdowns is a relatively new one, said Tucker. It was first suggested in a 2006 study by New Mexico scientist Robert J. Glass, who got the idea from his 14-year-old daughter’s science project."


  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,723 mod

    There's a few phrases/words I could see less of...unprecedented, stimulus, new unemployment claims, social distancing, politicized pandemic, and other assorted phrases.

    I never thought I'd be excited about the idea of two old senile white dudes arguing with each other about how they want to ruin the country more. But I am.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    They've started calling each other derogatory nicknames. It's a train wreck

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    FWIW Today's data:

    Red indicates total for that date is up from previous day. The 7 "April Adj?" is likely in part due to 5/18 deaths not yet reported. Still adjusting May 6 and 7 and every day from May 9th on makes me wonder what is going on!

  • DvilleDawgDvilleDawg Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    In our weekly Covid19 conference call they told us that the owner of one of the buildings we rent in Duluth wants us to only allow 4 people in an elevator at a time and we must face each corner of the elevator. The building is 6 floors and I wonder how we're supposed to know what floor we're on if the doors open before we get to our destination? Thank goodness I don't have to go out there very often.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Until Florida shows there is a transparent process for collecting data and sharing it with the public as well as the raw data with outside researchers, we should assume they are deflating case numbers and deaths to justify reopening. Anytime someone is asked to manipulate raw data that is a huge red flag. Scientists get blacklisted for doing that. They might have asked her to change something minor, but the fact she was fired, the website went down, and researchers have been struggling to get data is very concerning. The People need answers.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I should also point out that around the time of her firing the website changed from updating at 11am and 6:30 pm with I assume "Today's" numbers to only updating at 11 am with "Yesterday's" numbers so May could be missing a day in addition to the delay's shown in the spreadsheet.

  • Razor2027Razor2027 Posts: 999 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sitting in Upstate, SC. All good and still waiting for my wife's office to reopen so she can leave the house and leave me in peace :)

  • razorachillesrazorachilles Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't know the details other than her comments post-removal from her post but am very interested to learn more.

    Interpretation of data is one thing; manipulation of data is a non-starter and can't happen.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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