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Assumptions never seem to work out. We also have to take a “fired” and disgruntled employee’s (that isn’t the lone person in Florida working on this) Word with a grain of salt. It’s a lot of people working on this....one person saying they hide info? Maybe....but if we are playing the “assume” game then I assume she may be a disgruntled employee.
Read the article first
I can tell you my wife works in a hospital in the Jacksonville FL area and they are cutting hours and just announced that there will be no pay increases this year. Definitely not a flood of patients here. To add she is an RN in the NICU but all departments are cutting hours and no bonuses and they cut the COVID premium pay when on-call. And they are put on-call quite a bit.
There's crap like this going on all over the place, because there is too much at stake and the legacy and careers of politicians (professional liars) are on the line. When manipulating the truth is as normal as blinking or breathing, then its a no-brainer that this stuff would happen.
Gosh, I just read that and realized that this stuff has made be quite the skeptic. I apologize for the negativity...
Raining cats and dogs here in SC. We are finishing up the "school year" at school making sure all the "i's" and "t's" are taken care of.
We are having graduation Friday - bout 250 people in an auditorium that seats 2500, all doors propped open, hand-san everywhere, everyone acting like Sheldon.
For those interested, the National High School Federation made their first statements yesterday. It's worth looking up:
https://www.nfhs.org/media/3812287/2020-nfhs-guidance-for-opening-up-high-school-athletics-and-activities-nfhs-smac-may-15_2020-final.pdf
Tallulah Bankhead was what Kieth Moon tried to be. She was proudly promiscuous with anyone (male or female- she referred to herself as "ambisextrous") that was remotely interesting. She had four abortions by the time she was 30. At 31 she had a hysterectomy due to venereal disease. She weighed 70 lbs. By 66 years old Tallulah Bankhead had a pantheon of health issues stemming from a wildly promiscuous lifestyle, drug and alcohol abuse, malnutrition, and from famously smoking 100+ cigarettes per day. Even if she had the "endemic flu strain" when she died (which may be possible but not provable) nobody (before 2020) blamed a virus for killing Tallulah Bankhead.
But Eric Spitznagel needed a name for his "...didn't spare the rich and famous..." line. I think it's called artistic license. Lots of professionals use it. Even doctors. Even mathematical epidemiologists. But especially reporters and politicians.
Still, his article is far from worthless; the parallels/ contrasts between the two viruses makes for a great read, particularly how the "Hong Kong Flu" received almost no media attention at all while Covid19 gets 24 hour coverage from a dozen television stations and has been the headline of every major periodical for six weeks strong. (If I had a nickel for each time the word "Covid" was used on any news network UGA could triple their recruiting budget).
I'm skeptical of every single Covid19 statistic. Both sides (because apparently there are two sides). What sources were at least influenced by an agenda? You and I don't know. Even the reputable Johns Hopkins is reliant on potentially influenced data. I couldn't care less about new information concerning a global pandemic that has so many political legs I will never know the truth about it. No one will ever know if we saved lives by shutting down the world or if we lost more lives because of it. No one will be able to calculate how much of the economy recovered or was lost forever. And I can just about guarantee that no media figure will say, "I was so wrong about that."
Whatever side you are on you'll probably still be on that side in 2050 when we tell our grandchildren how incompetent the people on the other side of the aisle were in handling Covid19. And we'll be about half right.
Good news: The Coronavirus will be eradicated from central Alabama this Friday.
Bad News: So will everything else.
*not an edit
That's good they will need it:
I wonder if they realize deep cleaning doesn't prevent human-to-human transmission. Also "lack of transparency" shows up again. If people want to make the argument that everyone should be free to choose to go back to work or back to society in general, then we should be given all the information to make an informed decision. That shouldn't be a controversial, political opinion.
I'll bet in the red states "all the information" sounds like Six Flags and in blue states "all the information" sounds like Chernobyl.
A political consultant once told me, "I can pay an engineer to say whatever I want." And they do it. Every day. Every single day. Republicans. Democrats. Any one who thinks one party is "cleaner" than another is naive.
The narrative has become a political game. Statistics are being fabricated in some places and withheld in others leaving the Google educated experts to boil the argument down to "which is better: FoxNews or CNN?"
Everyone's perspective is biased. Even mine. Even yours. I don't have a problem with that. It makes the world a better place...
...sometimes.
I predict that the best selling book in 2022 will be titled "COVID19: What Really Happened."
And it won't tell you what really happened.
And half of your Facebook friends will say "I told you so!" and the other half will say "It's all lies!"
I thank the Lord everyday that I gave up being affiliated with any political party. My own thoughts brought my independence of all beliefs, including politics. I don't follow herd mentality.......
You are right to be cynical about politics. I have worked for a congressman and worked on multiple congressional campaigns for folks from one political party. I have run for office and ran statewide campaigns for the other major party. I am one of the few people I know who has this experience on both sides. And, both parties play extremely dirty - both to the other party, yes, but even dirtier is the internal politics - again on both sides. Both do whatever they have to in order to promote themselves and survive at the expense of our people and our country. I am not deceitful enough to do well in that world. In fact, I was told that I was too honest by folks on both sides who liked me and were trying to help. It was surreal hearing that about a noble pursuit that my family has been involved with for 400 years to the year in this nation, dating back obviously to before it was a nation.
But then, in these confusing Covid19 times, I turn outside of politics. To ministers who aren't political, to actors who aren't political, to community leaders who aren't political, to health care workers who aren't political and I see heroic acts of selfness, great positive attitudes and for me a partially refound faith in humanity.
But beyond today or even our nation's history, humans have thousand, perhaps millions of years of history consisting of acts of kindess intertwined with ruthless deceipt, brutality and selfishiness among those who rise to leadership. Why is this? I don't understand the dichomoty.
Regarding Covid19, I think it is absolutely essential to dig into any situation in which data is presenting in a confusing manner, someone is fired, the logic of a statement doesn't match the situation, etc. We are fighting an enemy that requires coordination among all of us and politicans are still squabbling to divide us when we need a united front now more than ever. Questioning a politician should first and foremost be something we do with a politician we voted for and not just as a way of having a gotcha moment for someone we didn't vote for. If we voted for someone, they are responsible to us and it is our job to make sure of it. I really, really dislike the norms today in which those someone votes for can do no wrong and those someone votes against can do no right. We should hold those we vote for to a higher standard than those we vote against and not engage in tribalism. And if anyone on this forum questions something analytically, I think that is great - it doesn't matter to me if it is a liberal or a conservative questioning a liberal or conservative leader - it doesn't matter! GrayDawg, Denman and many others have questioned things and this is a healthy part of living in a democracy. Others get on here and are just an echo chamber of ranting for the deceitful politicians manipulating people like puppets.
Until we stop diving ourselves, we won't beat Covid19 and we won't elect people who speak to a greater good, but instead will be stuck with those who are really skilled at lying, manipulating and dividing us. In football, we praise Kirby Smart. In politics, we elect the equivalent of Jeremy Pruitt. I think we'd fix a lot of what is broken with more folks like Kirby Smart and less people like Pruitt in poliitcs. It would also help us both take Covid19 seriously and get our economy back on track.
The key here will be mid June. Much has been made of the 5% Fl decline in the 2 weeks since reopen v 2 weeks prior. In reality the decline is due to the social distancing that occurred during the lock-down and the cases may increase in the next 2 weeks followed by hospitalizations increasing early/mid June and deaths up in the last 2 weeks of June. Hope I'm wrong but that's how it works unless the seasonal factor kicks in.
I believe the models predict that some uptick/backsliding is practically guaranteed whenever and wherever shelter orders are lifted, so I imagine your fears are well founded. I just hope we don't overreact when it happens and start shutting things down again. Because if that happens, we will be in a world of pain (economically, politically, and culturally) far worse than anything that has happened so far.
Hopefully testing will be at a point where we could trace and isolate clusters. I’m with you - I don’t think people could withstand another large scale closing (fill in the blanks for the reasons why).