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What exactly, vexes you most....that the people on a site called "Dawg Nation" are actually Dawg fans...or, is it that, maybe only 1 or 2 people share your opinion. I think, maybe it's the latter. It couldn't possibly be, that your opinion is flawed or flat out wrong. Must be, 'cause everybody else is "homers". Interesting concept. LOL
Chief you lost the little credibility you had left when you argued that reclassified freshman CB Washington's 3 yrs of HS football experience was equal to the 4 yrs of experience the other freshman DB's were coming in with (3 = 4 LOL) THEN you compared him with Kobe Bryant and LeBron James (who also played 4 yrs in HS! LOL)
I can't "step over" my previous posts. They all state facts. Facts don't need a direction. Facts aren't "clever". They are facts that stand on their own. (something else you will learn when you get to HS) I'm glad you remember all of my previous posts. That means 2 things. 1) I must be living in your head and 2) maybe you will learn something about football.
I like how you call other people "wrong" but never say why. I bet you want to be an attorney when you grow up. But 1st you gotta learn 4 is greater than 3. Now go back to the kiddie table and don't bother the adults again.
In the future just avoid reading my posts. I can't dumb them down just for you to try and keep up with.
LOL...Bless your heart. Good job misrepresenting my comments. Why is being wrong, so threatening to you? Is there a reason you can't face that reality?
Now, if you you have the ability to comprehend what you're reading...and I sincerely hope you do...you know that, what I was saying with regard to Washington, was that he would be 10 times better off in UGA's power 5 developmental program for 1 year....vice 1 more year of HS Football. If you disagree....well, that's on you. You might want to reconsider, but, I've said that about your analysis of Bennett. Maybe you're just not capable of reassessing your position on....I don't know, ANY topic.
Last year, you also sounded like you were JT Daniels Prom date. LOL...JK. Seriously, you were one of his staunchest supporters over playing Bennett. You might want to read an honest assessment of Daniels abilities using actual analytics (provided below).
As you and the rest of us know, UGA has gone to an air-raid style offense. Based on some of the comments I've seen from some fans...and media members...most don't seem to understand what the "air raid style" scheme actually is, or what type of QB is needed to run it. Daniels is NOT the prototype...Bennett IS. That's why he started over Daniels. And, either BVG or Arch Manning is UGA's QB of the future. Both, have those same qualities.
Go to an article written by "The Smoking Musket" (WV's 'Dawg Nation' equivalent) and read the article entitled "A Closer Look at West Virginia's JT Daniels". You'll understand how to actually apply analytics to a QB's projected performance based on peripheral talent. WV, also runs out of the air raid principles offense.
Who said I was wrong? I give you credit 61 you are the master at changing your story from post to post. I think you will be an attorney when you grow up. But as I said I can't dumb down my posts just so you can follow along. Wait a few years and I'm sure logic will begin to be understandable to you.
For anyone else besides 61 reading this: For the record, as I said post 1 about Washington, I love the player and am THRILLED that he chose UGA. I think the sky is the limit for that kid. Him being from GA and the son of a former Bulldog makes it extra sweet. But there is a reason it is irregular to bring in 4 CB's in the same class. When he reclassified we did not know that the 25 limit would be lifted for 2 years. That mitigates the irregularity and allows you to recruit more CB's in this cycle for future use.
No doubt Washington will develop more in yr 1 at UGA than yr 4 in HS. That wasn't what you said. You said he was as ready to contribute NOW as the guys that were older and more experienced. I said UGA (!) would benefit more THIS YEAR by Washington staying in HS than they would with him coming early (and redshirting and riding the bench). The numbers were reported to be tight. That his scholarship could be used more advantageously by someone with experience that could contribute more THIS YEAR. Someone from the TP that could actually play THIS YEAR. But I expect revisionist history from you. It is your MO. I don't expect you to follow scholarship logic. I mean if you can't master 4 is greater than 3 how will you ever master 85 and 25?
Just like SBIV's MO was to come up small in the biggest games (ie vs AL). He did his best Tony "oh no!" Romo impressions throwing more INT's than TD's.. With the help of his team and a couple of near miracles he was able to not lose the game for a team with a generational D. Truth be told the 2 biggest and most miraculous plays SBIV made were recovering 2 of his 3 fumbles. And thankfully 2 of his reckless ("boneheaded" according to CKS) throws fell harmlessly to the turf instead of being picked off (as AL has been able to do it the past). He tried to do his Romo impression and give the game away again but the gods smiled on UGA that day.
I wasn't as sure of JTD choking as I was of SBIV choking. We had seen it before. A generational D, a better team and players making (AD Mitchell's TD) great plays against a depleted opponent was enough to carry SBIV to a CFBNC. SBIV's 2 fumble recoveries (of his own fumbles) were not expected based on previous history and broke the UGA jinx.
Thank you too, for being so perfectly illustrative. Enjoy your gatekeeping.
I keep telling myself to not feed the trolls but the dad, coach, adult, manager, and teacher in me naively thinks I can talk logically with everybody.
The good news about Dawgnation is that there only seems to be 1 troll here. Admittedly some times it is fun to try and impart wisdom upon him and watch the illogic that results.
I’m not sure where you are coming from…. There seems to be a good mix of differing opinions and thoughtful debate here on DawgNation. I have opinions, some agree with me, some passionately disagree—that is what makes it interesting and fun!
You didn't answer the question. Does that mean my original assumption was correct? You aren't receptive to differing opinions? Maybe Twitter would be more acceptable to you. I hear they censor opinions that differ from the official narrative. LOL
You are correct, oh "Great One". LOL. I did indeed, say that Washington could contribute in year 1. He should be able to play in at least 4 games before the end of the year and maintain his ability to red-shirt. He could enter the 2023 season ready to hit the field running. There is no substitute for experience.
As for 2022...you never know how a player will respond. Washington could have a Derek Stingley type, first year. That would be an unexpected, but pleasant surprise.
In any case, UGA needs as many DBs as they can pack into the stables going into each season. This will be true, as long as the current transfer/NIL rules exist. They lose more than their fair share, every year, to the Portal and attrition...not to mention, injury. The defensive backfield has been unstable for a couple of years now, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
DB at UGA, in Smart's system, is arguably the toughest position on the field to play, mainly because of all of the nuances and reads that come with each play. If you get it wrong...it results in a TD or big gain (i.e., J Williams TD in the SECCG).
Whether Washington contributes in 2022, or not, is immaterial. He, as you stated, is much better off at UGA, participating in the physical conditioning program, meetings, drills and learning "the system". I'll leave the scholarship management to Smart and the gang. They know what they're doing.
Bennett is no different than any other QB, when it comes to miscues. Young recovered his own fumble at the end of the half in the SECCG. Threw 2 boneheaded interceptions in the CFCCG. Didn't hear you pointing any of that out, when you were singing Young's praises in difference to Bennett's performance. LOL
IMO, you have to take the totality of a QB's attributes, in order to evaluate him. Numbers...statistics...facts, can be manipulated to create a truth that doesn't exist, by simply omitting some facts, while touting others, just to support your opinion or narrative. If you rely entirely on statistics to evaluate & select your QB...well, prepare for disappointment. While statistics are a valid metric and give a pretty good picture of a QB's ability, it is only one angle of perspective. There are other angles to consider, such as, heart, intelligence, physical characteristics, leadership ability, etc..
Considering that...the whole point of playing the game, is to WIN, the QB handles the ball on every play, and there is only 1 QB on the field...a coach has to put a "winner" behind center, and that's not always going to be the guy with the best Stats or metrics. You have to decide if you would rather "Win ****" or "Lose Pretty".
I don't know if you read that article on "The Smoking Musket" website, but, just in case you are having difficulty operating your computer's search engine (JK), I'll post a link right after I post this comment. I thought it was very interesting and you might get something out of it as well
BTW, I wouldn't call Bennett scoring 24 points against a BAMA defense, "coming up small". That being said, those first 2 games against BAMA were definitely not his best. To be fair, the first loss, was only his 3rd or 4th start in an FBS game...against the eventual undefeated 2021 NC. I'm sure nerves and pressure played a big part in his inconsistent performance...not to mention, bad luck. His latest win gave him an enormous jolt of confidence. He'll be entering the 2022 season as a Champion with the wind in his sails, two years experience as a starter under the same OC and a fully loaded offensive weapon (a Howitzer, LOL). Every QB's, Coach's and Fan's dream. Why is everybody fretting??? LOL
https://www.smokingmusket.com/2022/5/7/23056346/a-closer-look-at-west-virginia-mountaineer-qb-jt-daniels
Regarding CBs: No doubt Washington will benefit from being in the program at UGA rather than a senior in HS. Whether he contributes meaningfully this year or not, bringing in five four-or-five-star freshman DBs (or whatever the number is) just increases our chances at having one or two real contributors in a year when we're thin in those positions.
Regarding Bennett: It's just weird how this whole thread has devolved into comparing him with Young. The article was about Bennett not making a list of 25 best returning QBs -- not whether he had a better year than the guy who won the Heisman.
Do even the Bennett critics on this thread think he's NOT one of the 25 best returning QBs entering the season? The dude was MVP in the both playoff games, ranked third in passing and ranked fourth in QBR. And he actually did play well under pressure in the biggest game of his career. I just don't see how his record doesn't get him ahead of somebody like, say, D.J. Uiagalelei. I mean, seriously, would you really prefer to have Taulia Tagovailoa or Payton Thorne leading the Dogs heading into this season?
ESPN's "tiers" of 131 college QBs out yesterday made a lot more sense that the 247 article.
It essentially puts Stetson as seventh -- alone at tier 2b. Tier 1 are Stroud, Young and Williams, and Tier 2 are Cevin Leary, Cam Rising and Tyler Van Dyke.
A bunch of SEC quarterback (although IMO weirdly not Rattler or Levis) are among those in Tier 3.
I don't think anyway can credibly say that ESPN's a bunch of homers for UGA.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33939006/ranking-all-131-college-football-quarterback-situations-tiers