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My wish was for The Hawks to take Jaren Jackson II ...I'm afraid they should have....
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His team The Grizzlies are allowing the 3rd fewest points in The NBA at 104.2, The Hawks are dead last at 119. Jackson is easily the best rookie defender, a good rebounder and a very efficient scorer to boot, everything I thought he might become, and he was the youngest player in the entire draft, so much room to grow yet.
Young has a world of offensive potential, but he's a big time chucker who doesn't defend well.
I still believe it could work out, but it's already getting old watching Trae chuck it from 35 ft with 15 seconds left on the clock.
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They're pretty much actively trying to lose so I wouldn't be surprised if they encourage Young to shoot whenever and wherever he wants. A good defender would not be seen by the casual fans they want to hang around while they **** as exciting to watch. If anything they should have just taken Doncic but I guess they were afraid of ruining him on this **** team.
I doubt a coach would deliberately instill such a bad habit in such a young and inexperienced player who is probably the team's most valuable asset. There are more subtle and less destructive ways to engineer a loss. Play him fewer minutes, put in a marginal reserve.
I think it was just a straightforward judgement that Young and Dallas's 2019 1st rd pick had more potential value than just Doncic. It could still work out, who knows maybe to gem of the lot will be whoever we land with that Dallas pick.
I don’t follow the Hawks much any more ...I’ve soured on pro hoops. College only for me these days.
Hopefully. I think they just wanted an older player who wouldn't be ruined by losing like Doncic could have. And people like shooters. Hell, I'd love to see Trae become an All Star.
I still have hopes, Trae is an excellent passer and ball handler, he can also drive to the basket. Right now he's dead last in adjusted fg percentage and 127th out of the 130 players ESPN list in those categories, that is awful.
Unfortunately college basketball hasn't been very kind to us either.
Bet they wish they had kept Luka Doncic now
It's still early, Luca has had off nights too.
Young has to become a more efficient scorer. He doesn't have a average 30 ppg, or even 22 ppg, but he can't be a black hole where the offense goes to disappear and be a net plus. Right now he is at the bottom of the league in scoring efficiency, that has to improve. The good news is he's either 19 or 20 years old and he has talent.
Then there is the question of what kind of return we get on Dallas's 2019 1st rd pick.
Is it one of those protected picks?
It's top 5 protected, Dallas is decent so we should be ok, I just hope they're not too good and the pick drops out of the lottery. Of course 6th would be ideal.
Before the draft I was of the opinion that the Hawks should draft the 6'11 Jack of all trades big man Jaren Jackon to pair with Collins to give the Joel Embids and Greek Freaks of the world something serious to think about when matching up with the Hawks length and bounce. My theory was to go ahead and marry up Collins with Jackson, bring in a journeyman point guard to provide some leadership and direction but not get off schedule with the tank. U r gonna b horrible for a couple of more years anyway so u can figure out your future backcourt later. News flash Hawks: Bigger is still better in the NBA. An era is coming soon where you'll have 10 men on the court, all 6'7 or taller and able to shoot 3's, initiate pick and role action, finish in transition, and defend multiple positions. So in that vein passing on Jackson was a miss by the Hawks IMO. And he (Jackson) Collins and Prince would've been a great place to start building this ideal modern NBA team. Find a couple 6'6 wings/guards with enough playmaking pizazz and 3 point shooting ability and also able to defend multiple positions and NO ONE WOULD WANT to play these Hawks.
There is no doubt who the hawks pick should have been. The Luka trade will haunt the hawks for decades
That was my thinking as well, I might pull up the thread I started on it prior to the draft. Right now that looks like it would have been a smart choice. We probably could have landed him and a 1st or 2nd rd pick for our #3 pick. Jackson has every potential you'd want in a modern big, The irony is he's shooting 3s a lot better than Trae. He is going to be a perennial all defensive team player, he is a freaking prototype modern defender, he can guard any position from any place on the court or in transition.
Check this out.
Jaren Jackson was 1 of 4 rookies in history with at least 250 pts, 40 rebounds and 20 blocks 20 games into the season, the other 3, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing and Bill Walton. His offensive rating is higher than either Doncic's or Marvin Bagley's and his defensive rating is a huge 10 pts higher than #1 draft pick center Deandre Ayton's. This could be the one we'll look back on and kick ourselves over. Plus, he is among the youngest players in this draft.