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A few thoughts on Justin Fields

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  • deutcshland_dawgdeutcshland_dawg Posts: 1,595 mod

    If hes not 100 percent UGA let him go. Otherwise you will see a divided locker room. Also this opens a spot for a top level qb flip.

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PerroGrande said:
    There are a ton of inconsistencies in the Fields story, folks. This is a complete turnabout from what he said after the SECCG, if true. Maybe there are extenuating circumstances. The strangest thing to me is that Fields is in the pole position for leading this team in '20, assuming Fromm turns pro next year. Maybe Fromm told him he is likely staying, and Justin figures he won't see the field before '21? Perhaps Kirby flipped Hilsinki and Fields was insulted? Maybe it is personal between the staff and Fields? There has to be a lot more to this story. Fields is in the perfect position to get a great education, win a Natty or two, and perhaps a Heisman, and go to the NFL--all at UGA.

    When it don't add up, adding a .99 to it don't matter. (Grammar is sic, folks).

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RetiredRedcoat said:
    Look at the difference post LSU. What was the main difference between the Florida game and every game prior?

    We had a clearly defined starter who knew he was the starter.

    I want Fields in Athens. I believe he is going to be an amazing talent wherever he goes. I am not hitting this forum with the classic Bama "he's only a luxury" mess. We could really use him on the roster. But be honest with yourselves: When Jacob Eason came out two years ago with that prototypical NFL physique, cannon arm, and sporting a full season under his belt along with a previous ranking of the #1 QB in the country...don't tell me that after he went down Fromm didn't come in and instantly pass every eye test as a major upgrade. You knew it instantly. You knew the moment you saw it. The offense clicked under him, and he had been given no time to develop. He had been given no time to learn protections. He was a true freshman.

    Now compare that to what we saw out of Fields. Prototypical NFL physique, a cannon arm, the previous #1 QB in the country...and when he walked out there did you see an instant upgrade? Did you see the offense click? Don't talk to me about flashes. Talk to me about consistent, sustained, upgraded production. He consciously knew he was going to be developed, and had been told there will be times you will come in. And yet I never noticed a moment when I saw a significant upside out of the true freshman. Fields flashed for sure...but Fromm didn't flash. He walked into South Bend and won in his first career start.

    I'm not saying that Fields isn't going to develop into an AMAZING quarterback. He is. He will at UGA if he stays, and he will anywhere else, too, to be totally honest. He's just that talented.

    But let this marinate:

    Jake Fromm has taken the job from one 5* top ranked QB already and didn't lose his job to another. When's the last time UGA had a QB like that? I want the chicken little gif. Kasey, where are you?

    FIFY There is nothing that he did that a reasonable observer would conclude that. Talented, yes. Translating that into a top level SEC quality QB is another thing.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,813 mod

    @RetiredRedcoat said:
    Look at the difference post LSU. What was the main difference between the Florida game and every game prior?

    We had a clearly defined starter who knew he was the starter.

    I want Fields in Athens. I believe he is going to be an amazing talent wherever he goes. I am not hitting this forum with the classic Bama "he's only a luxury" mess. We could really use him on the roster. But be honest with yourselves: When Jacob Eason came out two years ago with that prototypical NFL physique, cannon arm, and sporting a full season under his belt along with a previous ranking of the #1 QB in the country...don't tell me that after he went down Fromm didn't come in and instantly pass every eye test as a major upgrade. You knew it instantly. You knew the moment you saw it. The offense clicked under him, and he had been given no time to develop. He had been given no time to learn protections. He was a true freshman.

    Now compare that to what we saw out of Fields. Prototypical NFL physique, a cannon arm, the previous #1 QB in the country...and when he walked out there did you see an instant upgrade? Did you see the offense click? Don't talk to me about flashes. Talk to me about consistent, sustained, upgraded production. He consciously knew he was going to be developed, and had been told there will be times you will come in. And yet I never noticed a moment when I saw a significant upside out of the true freshman. Fields flashed for sure...but Fromm didn't flash. He walked into South Bend and won in his first career start.

    I'm not saying that Fields isn't going to develop into an AMAZING quarterback. He is. He will at UGA if he stays, and he will anywhere else, too, to be totally honest. He's just that talented.

    But let this marinate:

    Jake Fromm has taken the job from one 5* top ranked QB already and didn't lose his job to another. When's the last time UGA had a QB like that? I want the chicken little gif. Kasey, where are you?

    This is not a chicken little situation. Most people have had reasoned takes on the issue yesterday and today. If anyone said something like "this is the end" that wasn't an obvious troll then I would break him out

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Man Im fed up with these entitled prima donna QBs tucking tail and running when things aren't going their way. I guess when he (Fields) committed to Georgia he must have thought Grayson Lambert was the starter and he'd have the job by midseason. Well Grayson Lambert and Joe Cox Fromm is not IF that was the reason hes allegedly transferring.

  • PerroGrandePerroGrande Posts: 6,266 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The irony is that the best thing could be to take the backup role, get stronger, older and learn the system. He is going to take a beating if he is a first year starter at a school without a good line. Staying at UGA is the safest way to the NFL, but I also understand him wanting to play before '20/21. He is taking a risk if he goes somewhere and doesn't do well, or he gets beat out. That cooks his future.

  • PerroGrandePerroGrande Posts: 6,266 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The real problem, imho, is that we have/had two great QBs. Even in his limited role, Fields' throwing stats were very impressive for a TF, and he had some passes dropped, like the TD strike to DROB. I think Fromm is so good he could win the Heisman, and I think Fields could win a Heisman, too. It is just hard to keep them both happy because Fields wants to play. I still think Fields is going to be better than Newton by the time he graduates. Let's hope it isn't at our expense.

  • VALDOSTADAWGVALDOSTADAWG Posts: 1,468 mod

    WHY THE REPORTS A DAY AND A HALF BEFORE THE ESP??

    felds, pls

  • gdawg4lifegdawg4life Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @RetiredRedcoat said:
    Look at the difference post LSU. What was the main difference between the Florida game and every game prior?

    We had a clearly defined starter who knew he was the starter.

    I want Fields in Athens. I believe he is going to be an amazing talent wherever he goes. I am not hitting this forum with the classic Bama "he's only a luxury" mess. We could really use him on the roster. But be honest with yourselves: When Jacob Eason came out two years ago with that prototypical NFL physique, cannon arm, and sporting a full season under his belt along with a previous ranking of the #1 QB in the country...don't tell me that after he went down Fromm didn't come in and instantly pass every eye test as a major upgrade. You knew it instantly. You knew the moment you saw it. The offense clicked under him, and he had been given no time to develop. He had been given no time to learn protections. He was a true freshman.

    Now compare that to what we saw out of Fields. Prototypical NFL physique, a cannon arm, the previous #1 QB in the country...and when he walked out there did you see an instant upgrade? Did you see the offense click? Don't talk to me about flashes. Talk to me about consistent, sustained, upgraded production. He consciously knew he was going to be developed, and had been told there will be times you will come in. And yet I never noticed a moment when I saw a significant upside out of the true freshman. Fields flashed for sure...but Fromm didn't flash. He walked into South Bend and won in his first career start.

    I'm not saying that Fields isn't going to develop into an AMAZING quarterback. He is. He will at UGA if he stays, and he will anywhere else, too, to be totally honest. He's just that talented.

    But let this marinate:

    Jake Fromm has taken the job from one 5* top ranked QB already and didn't lose his job to another. When's the last time UGA had a QB like that? I want the chicken little gif. Kasey, where are you?

    The play that stands out the most to me which showed Fields just wasn’t quite ready for the big time just yet was the Auburn game. We were on the 2 yard line and he took a 16 yard sack. That’s near the end of the season. He’s been through Spring and Summer, plus almost an entire season of practice with some game experience. You shouldn’t look like a deer in headlights at that point.

    We heard very early on before last season started that Fromm was really pushing Eason. Insiders were saying Fromm was a better decision maker than Eason. That he could read defenses better than Eason. We’ve never heard those same rumblings this year. Can Fields run the ball better than Fromm? Of course. Does Fields have a stronger arm than Fromm? Absolutely. But those two things alone doesn’t make a person a great QB.

    I have no doubt that Fields will be really good once he’s got the starting job wherever he is. I’d prefer it to be in Athens with him having EARNED the job. But if he isn’t happy and is going to be a cancer in the locker room, I’d prefer we cut ties now. Get him off the practice field and definitely don’t let him go to the Sugar Bowl. No need to reward a kid who doesn’t even want to be in the team.

  • JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,569 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I am not worried about this situation. Will we lose a recruit or additional player? Maybe. That doesn't mean we won't replace those guys because we will. Personally, I want people who want to be at Georgia. And I believe Georgia is a top program who can get the players it needs. So there is nothing to fear but fear itself--to borrow from history.

  • PerroGrandePerroGrande Posts: 6,266 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @JayDog said:
    I am not worried about this situation. Will we lose a recruit or additional player? Maybe. That doesn't mean we won't replace those guys because we will. Personally, I want people who want to be at Georgia. And I believe Georgia is a top program who can get the players it needs. So there is nothing to fear but fear itself--to borrow from history.

    Yep, if he wasn't out of scholly's he wouldn't have needed JRP to blueshirt.

  • JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,569 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Jesupdawg said:
    I say the media has a lot to do with all this. They pumped up the controversy all year long. If you don't believe that gets in kids and their parents heads then your crazy

    I got tired of the constant speculation about transfers. Frankly, if this transfer comes to pass, it will be a relief to me. If it doesn't happen and all this furor was brought on by JF's family--I hope Kirby lays the controversy to rest once and for all. I would almost rather JF go ahead and transfer regardless. If he is unhappy, he needs to do it for himself and his teammates.

  • JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,569 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PerroGrande said:

    @JayDog said:
    I am not worried about this situation. Will we lose a recruit or additional player? Maybe. That doesn't mean we won't replace those guys because we will. Personally, I want people who want to be at Georgia. And I believe Georgia is a top program who can get the players it needs. So there is nothing to fear but fear itself--to borrow from history.

    Yep, if he wasn't out of scholly's he wouldn't have needed JRP to blueshirt.

    That's the part I don't get. This must have been somewhat unexpected--at least the media announcement of it.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @Bulldawg1982 said:
    Surely he wouldn't have sabotaged that fake field goal, right?

    Right?

    There was something very strange about that fake punt play. It starts with the fact that Fields stuck out like Isaiah Wilson would in a crowd of asians

    Maybe a crowd of jockeys ?

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