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Zion Williamson

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @orlando said:

    @Bigcalidawg said:

    @MeR3htid said:
    And for the uninformed or millenials peak Barkley was profoundly GREAT. 😉😉😉

    I got to watch him a few times at Auburn. Great battles against UK with Melvin Turpin, Winston Bennett, and Sky Walker.

    Love Barkley, big man could ball and always spoke his mind. His claim as the #1 athlete out of AU is good stuff

    Barkley was among the best offensive players ever, but he was one lazy bastud on defense.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @WCDawg said:

    @orlando said:

    @Bigcalidawg said:

    @MeR3htid said:
    And for the uninformed or millenials peak Barkley was profoundly GREAT. 😉😉😉

    I got to watch him a few times at Auburn. Great battles against UK with Melvin Turpin, Winston Bennett, and Sky Walker.

    Love Barkley, big man could ball and always spoke his mind. His claim as the #1 athlete out of AU is good stuff

    Barkley was among the best offensive players ever, but he was one lazy bastud on defense.

    During the Olympic Trials, didn't Bobby Knight once stop practice and put an X made of tape on the floor to symbolize "This is where Charles Barkley played defense"?

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I was at a Warriors Rockets game when Barkley was with the Rockets.

    He scored every one of the Rockets 4th quarter points and every one was a drop down pass where he backed it down in the post and scored on his defender at will.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah seriously Barkley was special man.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    And I seriously, seriously DO NOT LIKE BARKLEY. Dont like Saban either but he's great nonetheless.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Fat Chuck at a little over 6'4, would TAKE a defensive rebound outrun a guard to the other end of the floor and dunk over a Center on his way to 28 points 15 rebounds 6 assist 2 blocks and a steal. 😎😎😎

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @orlando said:

    @Bigcalidawg said:

    @MeR3htid said:
    And for the uninformed or millenials peak Barkley was profoundly GREAT. 😉😉😉

    I got to watch him a few times at Auburn. Great battles against UK with Melvin Turpin, Winston Bennett, and Sky Walker.

    Love Barkley, big man could ball and always spoke his mind. His claim as the #1 athlete out of AU is good stuff

    Barkley was among the best offensive players ever, but he was one lazy bastud on defense.

    During the Olympic Trials, didn't Bobby Knight once stop practice and put an X made of tape on the floor to symbolize "This is where Charles Barkley played defense"?

    Seems right, Barkley even bragged about not playing defense. I wouldn't want him on my team just because of his attitude. He also was a huge jerk back in the day, but he was never boring.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I love the way Shaq taunts him and puts him in headlocks and whoops up on him on the set.

    Chuck don’t want none.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MeR3htid said:
    Fat Chuck at a little over 6'4, would TAKE a defensive rebound outrun a guard to the other end of the floor and dunk over a Center on his way to 28 points 15 rebounds 6 assist 2 blocks and a steal. 😎😎😎

    round mound of rebound. Classic moniker.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 546 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2018

    revenue sharing...just like country music...everybody gets a hit song....its like pro wrestling> @orlando said:

    @donm said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @Jinx55 said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    They MAY need someone like RJ Barrett e help take some ball handling responsiblity from Trae. If we had Luka, then yeah take Zion because he look to set Zion up first.

    I agree, adding the perimeter length and scoring ability in RJ will allow more of a steph and klay style of back court. Besides Zion is good, but he will take a while to get his offensive game where we can rely on him to give us 16pts-20 a night

    I don't care who is available. Zion Wiliamson is the nost exciting dunker since Dominique Wilkins. I cant stand to watch basketball. Bring him in and I will watch just to see if he can rip the rim off.

    It's interesting that the game you enjoy was once derided by old timers. Today's game is a lot closer to the early days of the game where passing, spacing, shooting and driving were what mattered on offense.

    Heck yeah he can jump out the gym but he knows shooting is a must in the NBA.
    Plus I think LBJ is great but travels 50% of the time when driving the lane.

    James Harden has the most traveling miles in the NBA

    Boy, I wish someone would GPS a game for Lebron and James H...I'd love to know how many steps (legal and/or illegal) each takes. They are both travelling marvels. James H gets the nod when it comes to initiating contact. The concept of verticality is clearly dead in the NBA.

    Lol and what the F is a euro step? Traveling as I see it

    thats usually the response of those who lack the coordination to jump and dribble @ the same time....you took a dribble ...allowing you 2 steps post jump step ....also most of us were taught to play until the norm is established by the ref...then thats where you play the game...people (coaches) are fine with calls as long as its consistent...its when its not called both ways is when the problems occur.....but do high profile players usually get calls...yes ....but usually its because it was a point of emphasis and lots of tape has been watched.... just because it looks like a travel doesnt mean it really is....case in point ...steve smiths hitch and go...or jordans jab step....and some that live in the grey area ....but once it was decided it wasn't a call ...then it never was a call....like hardaways killer crossover...or iversons reg crossover...

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bigcalidawg said:
    I love the way Shaq taunts him and puts him in headlocks and whoops up on him on the set.

    Chuck don’t want none.

    TNT needs to replay Barkley knocking himself out running into Shaq when he played for Phoenix, I mean completely knocked out.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2018

    @3rdshift said:
    revenue sharing...just like country music...everybody gets a hit song....its like pro wrestling> @orlando said:

    @donm said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @Jinx55 said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    They MAY need someone like RJ Barrett e help take some ball handling responsiblity from Trae. If we had Luka, then yeah take Zion because he look to set Zion up first.

    I agree, adding the perimeter length and scoring ability in RJ will allow more of a steph and klay style of back court. Besides Zion is good, but he will take a while to get his offensive game where we can rely on him to give us 16pts-20 a night

    I don't care who is available. Zion Wiliamson is the nost exciting dunker since Dominique Wilkins. I cant stand to watch basketball. Bring him in and I will watch just to see if he can rip the rim off.

    It's interesting that the game you enjoy was once derided by old timers. Today's game is a lot closer to the early days of the game where passing, spacing, shooting and driving were what mattered on offense.

    Heck yeah he can jump out the gym but he knows shooting is a must in the NBA.
    Plus I think LBJ is great but travels 50% of the time when driving the lane.

    James Harden has the most traveling miles in the NBA

    Boy, I wish someone would GPS a game for Lebron and James H...I'd love to know how many steps (legal and/or illegal) each takes. They are both travelling marvels. James H gets the nod when it comes to initiating contact. The concept of verticality is clearly dead in the NBA.

    Lol and what the F is a euro step? Traveling as I see it

    thats usually the response of those who lack the coordination to jump and dribble @ the same time....you took a dribble ...allowing you 2 steps post jump step ....also most of us were taught to play until the norm is established by the ref...then thats where you play the game...people (coaches) are fine with calls as long as its consistent...its when its not called both ways is when the problems occur.....but do high profile players usually get calls...yes ....but usually its because it was a point of emphasis and lots of tape has been watched.... just because it looks like a travel doesnt mean it really is....case in point ...steve smiths hitch and go...or jordans jab step....and some that live in the grey area ....but once it was decided it wasn't a call ...then it never was a call....like hardaways killer crossover...or iversons reg crossover...

    The so called Euro step is really a very coordinated move.
    James Harden doesn't travel when he does it properly. Where it gets messed up is when it's done too far from the basket, it's a great technique when properly executed though.

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @3rdshift said:
    revenue sharing...just like country music...everybody gets a hit song....its like pro wrestling> @orlando said:

    @donm said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @Jinx55 said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    They MAY need someone like RJ Barrett e help take some ball handling responsiblity from Trae. If we had Luka, then yeah take Zion because he look to set Zion up first.

    I agree, adding the perimeter length and scoring ability in RJ will allow more of a steph and klay style of back court. Besides Zion is good, but he will take a while to get his offensive game where we can rely on him to give us 16pts-20 a night

    I don't care who is available. Zion Wiliamson is the nost exciting dunker since Dominique Wilkins. I cant stand to watch basketball. Bring him in and I will watch just to see if he can rip the rim off.

    It's interesting that the game you enjoy was once derided by old timers. Today's game is a lot closer to the early days of the game where passing, spacing, shooting and driving were what mattered on offense.

    Heck yeah he can jump out the gym but he knows shooting is a must in the NBA.
    Plus I think LBJ is great but travels 50% of the time when driving the lane.

    James Harden has the most traveling miles in the NBA

    Boy, I wish someone would GPS a game for Lebron and James H...I'd love to know how many steps (legal and/or illegal) each takes. They are both travelling marvels. James H gets the nod when it comes to initiating contact. The concept of verticality is clearly dead in the NBA.

    Lol and what the F is a euro step? Traveling as I see it

    thats usually the response of those who lack the coordination to jump and dribble @ the same time....you took a dribble ...allowing you 2 steps post jump step ....also most of us were taught to play until the norm is established by the ref...then thats where you play the game...people (coaches) are fine with calls as long as its consistent...its when its not called both ways is when the problems occur.....but do high profile players usually get calls...yes ....but usually its because it was a point of emphasis and lots of tape has been watched.... just because it looks like a travel doesnt mean it really is....case in point ...steve smiths hitch and go...or jordans jab step....and some that live in the grey area ....but once it was decided it wasn't a call ...then it never was a call....like hardaways killer crossover...or iversons reg crossover...

    The so called Euro step is really a very coordinated move.
    James Harden doesn't travel when he does it properly. Where it gets messed up is when it's done too far from the basket, it's a great technique when properly executed though.

    I see what you’re saying but it’s not done that way most of the time. I guess I’m just to old because in today’s game the players travel, dribble illegally and get calls when it’s just good defense.

  • TNDawg71TNDawg71 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @3rdshift said:
    revenue sharing...just like country music...everybody gets a hit song....its like pro wrestling> @orlando said:

    @donm said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @Jinx55 said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    They MAY need someone like RJ Barrett e help take some ball handling responsiblity from Trae. If we had Luka, then yeah take Zion because he look to set Zion up first.

    I agree, adding the perimeter length and scoring ability in RJ will allow more of a steph and klay style of back court. Besides Zion is good, but he will take a while to get his offensive game where we can rely on him to give us 16pts-20 a night

    I don't care who is available. Zion Wiliamson is the nost exciting dunker since Dominique Wilkins. I cant stand to watch basketball. Bring him in and I will watch just to see if he can rip the rim off.

    It's interesting that the game you enjoy was once derided by old timers. Today's game is a lot closer to the early days of the game where passing, spacing, shooting and driving were what mattered on offense.

    Heck yeah he can jump out the gym but he knows shooting is a must in the NBA.
    Plus I think LBJ is great but travels 50% of the time when driving the lane.

    James Harden has the most traveling miles in the NBA

    Boy, I wish someone would GPS a game for Lebron and James H...I'd love to know how many steps (legal and/or illegal) each takes. They are both travelling marvels. James H gets the nod when it comes to initiating contact. The concept of verticality is clearly dead in the NBA.

    Lol and what the F is a euro step? Traveling as I see it

    thats usually the response of those who lack the coordination to jump and dribble @ the same time....you took a dribble ...allowing you 2 steps post jump step ....also most of us were taught to play until the norm is established by the ref...then thats where you play the game...people (coaches) are fine with calls as long as its consistent...its when its not called both ways is when the problems occur.....but do high profile players usually get calls...yes ....but usually its because it was a point of emphasis and lots of tape has been watched.... just because it looks like a travel doesnt mean it really is....case in point ...steve smiths hitch and go...or jordans jab step....and some that live in the grey area ....but once it was decided it wasn't a call ...then it never was a call....like hardaways killer crossover...or iversons reg crossover...

    The so called Euro step is really a very coordinated move.
    James Harden doesn't travel when he does it properly. Where it gets messed up is when it's done too far from the basket, it's a great technique when properly executed though.

    I see what you’re saying but it’s not done that way most of the time. I guess I’m just to old because in today’s game the players travel, dribble illegally and get calls when it’s just good defense.

    How old are you that travelling wasn't a thing in the NBA? That has been a thing since the 70s.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @3rdshift said:
    revenue sharing...just like country music...everybody gets a hit song....its like pro wrestling> @orlando said:

    @donm said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:

    @orlando said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @Bankwalker said:

    @Jinx55 said:

    @YK_DAWG24 said:
    They MAY need someone like RJ Barrett e help take some ball handling responsiblity from Trae. If we had Luka, then yeah take Zion because he look to set Zion up first.

    I agree, adding the perimeter length and scoring ability in RJ will allow more of a steph and klay style of back court. Besides Zion is good, but he will take a while to get his offensive game where we can rely on him to give us 16pts-20 a night

    I don't care who is available. Zion Wiliamson is the nost exciting dunker since Dominique Wilkins. I cant stand to watch basketball. Bring him in and I will watch just to see if he can rip the rim off.

    It's interesting that the game you enjoy was once derided by old timers. Today's game is a lot closer to the early days of the game where passing, spacing, shooting and driving were what mattered on offense.

    Heck yeah he can jump out the gym but he knows shooting is a must in the NBA.
    Plus I think LBJ is great but travels 50% of the time when driving the lane.

    James Harden has the most traveling miles in the NBA

    Boy, I wish someone would GPS a game for Lebron and James H...I'd love to know how many steps (legal and/or illegal) each takes. They are both travelling marvels. James H gets the nod when it comes to initiating contact. The concept of verticality is clearly dead in the NBA.

    Lol and what the F is a euro step? Traveling as I see it

    thats usually the response of those who lack the coordination to jump and dribble @ the same time....you took a dribble ...allowing you 2 steps post jump step ....also most of us were taught to play until the norm is established by the ref...then thats where you play the game...people (coaches) are fine with calls as long as its consistent...its when its not called both ways is when the problems occur.....but do high profile players usually get calls...yes ....but usually its because it was a point of emphasis and lots of tape has been watched.... just because it looks like a travel doesnt mean it really is....case in point ...steve smiths hitch and go...or jordans jab step....and some that live in the grey area ....but once it was decided it wasn't a call ...then it never was a call....like hardaways killer crossover...or iversons reg crossover...

    The so called Euro step is really a very coordinated move.
    James Harden doesn't travel when he does it properly. Where it gets messed up is when it's done too far from the basket, it's a great technique when properly executed though.

    I see what you’re saying but it’s not done that way most of the time. I guess I’m just to old because in today’s game the players travel, dribble illegally and get calls when it’s just good defense.

    Honestly the game was in a great place just a few years ago, team defense was at a premium. The late 1970s up to the late 80s was not good for defense, then The Pistons and Bulls put the league on a defensive minded course that pretty much held till recently. Everybody wanted to build a GS type team that can play both great motion offense and defend, but there aren't many Draymond Greens and Klay Thompsons lying around.

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