Apple has lost 35% of it's market value since Oct 2nd....

3rdshift

word is out out updating your phone kills it....fan boys and haters are great to drive price....people who dump the product and dont make waves ...they just ignore it ...bad sign....it will still hold it just won't dominate....new norm will set itself

WCDawg

@YaleDawg said:

@WCDawg said:

@a_rattler said:

@WCDawg said:
Hold on folks, this is getting serious. I'm too old for a slow climb back.

Everyone knew that iPhone sales would slow down as they went from being cultural phenomenons to regular products. Apple staved this off first by introducing larger screens then by boosting Chinese sales to compensate for falling US sales but they finally ran out of tricks. Their attempts to turn India into another China for them failed for regulatory reasons as India's government did not want too much competition for their own domestic smartphone industry, and there are no other big markets for them to expand to.

The iPhone had a great run ... the longest in history for a product that expensive at that volume and scale. But it is finally over. Apple knew this was coming in advance and it is the reason why they have been pivoting to being a services company for some time. Even though they can make as money that way as before that doesn't excite the stockbrokers as much as selling 100 million iPhones a quarter used to.

Apple is just my example though, it's virtually the entire market, from tech to heavy industry to services. It's the stock market, not jobs, etc, those generally lag behind the market.

You gotta know your audience by now. Most people here wont want to admit we're heading for another bad recession and they will definitely get mad for you pinning blame on trump. You're trying to get the forum riled up at this point.

That wasn't my original intent, but when it seemed there was a subtle shift to Obama bad I was quick to react. No doubt I knew this was possible or even likely though. Also, I use the word ''though'' too often, I usually have to edit most out.

WCDawg

@3rdshift said:
word is out out updating your phone kills it....fan boys and haters are great to drive price....people who dump the product and dont make waves ...they just ignore it ...bad sign....it will still hold it just won't dominate....new norm will set itself

I did a factory restore on my Brother's older laptop and couldn't get Windows to download, they'd deleted the drivers used in Windows 7 and effectively killed his computer. This is planned obsolescence to use an old term.

YaleDawg

@WCDawg said:

@YaleDawg said:

@WCDawg said:

@a_rattler said:

@WCDawg said:
Hold on folks, this is getting serious. I'm too old for a slow climb back.

Everyone knew that iPhone sales would slow down as they went from being cultural phenomenons to regular products. Apple staved this off first by introducing larger screens then by boosting Chinese sales to compensate for falling US sales but they finally ran out of tricks. Their attempts to turn India into another China for them failed for regulatory reasons as India's government did not want too much competition for their own domestic smartphone industry, and there are no other big markets for them to expand to.

The iPhone had a great run ... the longest in history for a product that expensive at that volume and scale. But it is finally over. Apple knew this was coming in advance and it is the reason why they have been pivoting to being a services company for some time. Even though they can make as money that way as before that doesn't excite the stockbrokers as much as selling 100 million iPhones a quarter used to.

Apple is just my example though, it's virtually the entire market, from tech to heavy industry to services. It's the stock market, not jobs, etc, those generally lag behind the market.

You gotta know your audience by now. Most people here wont want to admit we're heading for another bad recession and they will definitely get mad for you pinning blame on trump. You're trying to get the forum riled up at this point.

That wasn't my original intent, but when it seemed there was a subtle shift to Obama bad I was quick to react. No doubt I knew this was possible or even likely though. Also, I use the word ''though'' too often, I usually have to edit most out.

Yeah the Democrats are the root of all evil posts are predictable. It's best to stay away from online political interactions. Incredibly unproductive and turns into a giant pi ssing match

Kasey

@YaleDawg said:

@WCDawg said:

@YaleDawg said:

@WCDawg said:

@a_rattler said:

@WCDawg said:
Hold on folks, this is getting serious. I'm too old for a slow climb back.

Everyone knew that iPhone sales would slow down as they went from being cultural phenomenons to regular products. Apple staved this off first by introducing larger screens then by boosting Chinese sales to compensate for falling US sales but they finally ran out of tricks. Their attempts to turn India into another China for them failed for regulatory reasons as India's government did not want too much competition for their own domestic smartphone industry, and there are no other big markets for them to expand to.

The iPhone had a great run ... the longest in history for a product that expensive at that volume and scale. But it is finally over. Apple knew this was coming in advance and it is the reason why they have been pivoting to being a services company for some time. Even though they can make as money that way as before that doesn't excite the stockbrokers as much as selling 100 million iPhones a quarter used to.

Apple is just my example though, it's virtually the entire market, from tech to heavy industry to services. It's the stock market, not jobs, etc, those generally lag behind the market.

You gotta know your audience by now. Most people here wont want to admit we're heading for another bad recession and they will definitely get mad for you pinning blame on trump. You're trying to get the forum riled up at this point.

That wasn't my original intent, but when it seemed there was a subtle shift to Obama bad I was quick to react. No doubt I knew this was possible or even likely though. Also, I use the word ''though'' too often, I usually have to edit most out.

Yeah the Democrats are the root of all evil posts are predictable. It's best to stay away from online political interactions. Incredibly unproductive and turns into a giant pi ssing match

It's almost like both sides should stop demonizing the other and maybe work together to fix things

Bankwalker

https://ajc.com/news/next-president-likely-face-recession/qxFPmfd0p1a1AZo55AzOLM/

Raiderbeater1

@WCDawg said:

@CFPTitle_Dawg said:
Time to buy more? I have taken the hit since buying earlier this year but could go for more.

I wouldn't touch a stock till there is some indication the bottom is close.
Alan Greenspan of all people thinks we're in for a really deep downturn.

There are profitable stocks out there. Don’t buy the bloated Tech stocks.

Raiderbeater1

How bout we don’t sell ourselves out to the Chinese? They are playing the economic warfare long-game.

I’ll take a recession to get rid of the hold they have on production and our economy.

No pain no gain.

YaleDawg

@Kasey said:

@YaleDawg said:

@WCDawg said:

@YaleDawg said:

@WCDawg said:

@a_rattler said:

@WCDawg said:
Hold on folks, this is getting serious. I'm too old for a slow climb back.

Everyone knew that iPhone sales would slow down as they went from being cultural phenomenons to regular products. Apple staved this off first by introducing larger screens then by boosting Chinese sales to compensate for falling US sales but they finally ran out of tricks. Their attempts to turn India into another China for them failed for regulatory reasons as India's government did not want too much competition for their own domestic smartphone industry, and there are no other big markets for them to expand to.

The iPhone had a great run ... the longest in history for a product that expensive at that volume and scale. But it is finally over. Apple knew this was coming in advance and it is the reason why they have been pivoting to being a services company for some time. Even though they can make as money that way as before that doesn't excite the stockbrokers as much as selling 100 million iPhones a quarter used to.

Apple is just my example though, it's virtually the entire market, from tech to heavy industry to services. It's the stock market, not jobs, etc, those generally lag behind the market.

You gotta know your audience by now. Most people here wont want to admit we're heading for another bad recession and they will definitely get mad for you pinning blame on trump. You're trying to get the forum riled up at this point.

That wasn't my original intent, but when it seemed there was a subtle shift to Obama bad I was quick to react. No doubt I knew this was possible or even likely though. Also, I use the word ''though'' too often, I usually have to edit most out.

Yeah the Democrats are the root of all evil posts are predictable. It's best to stay away from online political interactions. Incredibly unproductive and turns into a giant pi ssing match

It's almost like both sides should stop demonizing the other and maybe work together to fix things

He'll never find bipartisanship

Bankwalker

Nor will Nancy or that other nutlicker, Chuck Schumer

WCDawg

@Bankwalker said:
https://ajc.com/news/next-president-likely-face-recession/qxFPmfd0p1a1AZo55AzOLM/

Trump was quick to claim to be the greatest president in history simply by riding Obama's expansion out. Obama took the job market from 10% unemployment down to 4.7%. The decline continued under Trump, it went down .7% and Trump claimed the best job growth in history. It's like somebody else climbed within 500ft of the top of Everest, Trump flew in had Sherpas carry him 500ft, and had a butt boy plant a Trump Summit flag.
He deserves every bit of fallout for being who he is.

Bankwalker

@WCDawg said:

@Bankwalker said:
https://ajc.com/news/next-president-likely-face-recession/qxFPmfd0p1a1AZo55AzOLM/

Trump was quick to claim to be the greatest president in history simply by riding Obama's expansion out. Obama took the job market from 10% unemployment down to 4.7%. The decline continued under Trump, it went down .7% and Trump claimed the best job growth in history. It's like somebody else climbed within 500ft of the top of Everest, Trump flew in had Sherpas carry him 500ft, and had a butt boy plant a Trump Summit flag.
He deserves every bit of fallout for being who he is.

I'm not going to defend Trump, just posting what I know. The whole time he was running off about the above things you mention I was thinking it was a bad idea. I don't know who I will vote for next time around, but I hope there's an alternative to him and the commies you support.

WCDawg

@Raiderbeater1 said:
How bout we don’t sell ourselves out to the Chinese? They are playing the economic warfare long-game.

I’ll take a recession to get rid of the hold they have on production and our economy.

No pain no gain.

That boat has sailed.
One thing I do agree with Trump on is protecting our intellectual property. I'd be glad to throw some CEOs in prison for sending information developed in America to China. Trump is FOS with his coal wars and pretending we can revert back to a 1960s economy though. If we really cut the cord with China it wouldn't be a recession, it would be a monumental collapse across the developed world. We are dependent on each other. The fact is we are also losing market dominance, the world won't depend as heavily on selling their goods here as the east continues to expand their markets. That will leave us with 2 aces, our way of life and intellectual property. If we can't dominate in tech development and retention, we'll be second rate in 20 years.

WCDawg

@Bankwalker said:

@WCDawg said:

@Bankwalker said:
https://ajc.com/news/next-president-likely-face-recession/qxFPmfd0p1a1AZo55AzOLM/

Trump was quick to claim to be the greatest president in history simply by riding Obama's expansion out. Obama took the job market from 10% unemployment down to 4.7%. The decline continued under Trump, it went down .7% and Trump claimed the best job growth in history. It's like somebody else climbed within 500ft of the top of Everest, Trump flew in had Sherpas carry him 500ft, and had a butt boy plant a Trump Summit flag.
He deserves every bit of fallout for being who he is.

I'm not going to defend Trump, just posting what I know. The whole time he was running off about the above things you mention I was thinking it was a bad idea. I don't know who I will vote for next time around, but I hope there's an alternative to him and the commies you support.

What ''commies'' do I support smart ass.

YaleDawg

@WCDawg said:

@Raiderbeater1 said:
How bout we don’t sell ourselves out to the Chinese? They are playing the economic warfare long-game.

I’ll take a recession to get rid of the hold they have on production and our economy.

No pain no gain.

That boat has sailed.
One thing I do agree with Trump on is protecting our intellectual property. I'd be glad to throw some CEOs in prison for sending information developed in America to China. Trump is FOS with his coal wars and pretending we can revert back to a 1960s economy though. If we really cut the cord with China it wouldn't be a recession, it would be a monumental collapse across the developed world. We are dependent on each other. The fact is we are also losing market dominance, the world won't depend as heavily on selling their goods here as the east continues to expand their markets. That will leave us with 2 aces, our way of life and intellectual property. If we can't dominate in tech development and retention, we'll be second rate in 20 years.

We need to dominate alternative energy production and development