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The 2020 QB draft class just got a little more interesting

judasdurant

Justin Herbert, pegged by many as the #1 QB prospect in this draft, announced today he will return to school for his senior year.

This means there will potentially be 3 top QBs in next years draft (Tua, Fromm, Herbert). Maybe that’ll influence jake to stay for his senior year

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TMazz2009

Man I have said this a few times on here....Jake is staying homie. Mark it down...

Tua on the other hand should probably stay as well. Not sure he will impress with his arm strength. In fact, I believe he will be one of those QBs who refuses to throw at the combine. And it will be the first pro day that they have to bring the blue medical tent out. Tua checks that thing out in between plays to make sure it is available.

MeR3htid

Even if Fromm is projected as a top 5 pick next year and is coming off a National Championship he'll still come back for his Sr. Year cause he's a good ole Georgia boy and I think he enjoys the celebrity status that he enjoys in Athens and theres no injury concerns because his name is Jake, not Tua. Hes the best QB in the SEC IMO and his durability is what gives him the edge over Tua.

a_rattler

I still don't get the "Jake Fromm top draft prospect" thing. Fromm is average-above average physically in terms of arm strength and height and he has never either dominated a game - even against pedestrian foes - or put UGA on his back and carried them. To put it another way, Fromm plays for a top 5 program. He is not the reason UGA is a top 5 program.

When responding, please none of these two canards.

His leadership/intelligence/intangibles/"he's a winner!"/"The next Tom Brady!" Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. His success hasn't changed the way that NFL teams evaluate QBs because none of the other "next Tom Brady" QBs have done squat in the NFL, just like none of the guys who were supposed to be the next Joe Montana or Drew Brees have. Some guys are just unique. Another thing: plenty of QBs have those same "intangibles/winning traits" AND the physical ability and/or stats to go with it.
You aren't a real UGA fan! Well a "real UGA fan" would realize that Eric Zeier, David Greene, Aaron Murray, Matt Stafford, D.J. Shockley and even Quincy Carter would have benefited mightily from the talent and coaching that UGA has had the past 2 seasons that Fromm has had at his disposal. Murray is the #1 all time SEC passer and #2 isn't close. Greene is #3 and Zeier is #6. They are - collectively and individually - ahead of guys like the Manning brothers, the Florida QBs and even the Kentucky spread guys. Those guys just didn't have a team around them to do their abilities justice.

You want some NFL team to invest a #1 draft pick in a guy who couldn't get better numbers to Riley Ridley, Mecole Hardman, Isaac Nauta and Terry Godwin. As if it is easier to get the ball to guys like that in the NFL or something.

PerroGrande

Well, I pretty much disagree with everybody here. Rewatch the SECCG and you will see the NFL QB--#11 in Red & Black. It is possible Fromm was extremely lucky, but I think he is just improving, as one might expect. So, I think he goes in the first round next year and the Dawg fans here are dreaming about him staying--he'd be crazy to turn the NFL down.

JayDog

@a_rattler so far, your opinion conflicts with a lot of folks who get paid to opine on QB's talent. Not one says he doesn't have the necessary tools to be an NFL QB.

You mention Montana as if he was the prototypical NFL QB. I'm wondering if you are old enough to have watched him play.

Stats in this case are deceiving. Jake is not supposed to have 350 yards passing every game. That is not our offense.

Bankwalker

@a_rattler said:
I still don't get the "Jake Fromm top draft prospect" thing. Fromm is average-above average physically in terms of arm strength and height and he has never either dominated a game - even against pedestrian foes - or put UGA on his back and carried them. To put it another way, Fromm plays for a top 5 program. He is not the reason UGA is a top 5 program.

When responding, please none of these two canards.

His leadership/intelligence/intangibles/"he's a winner!"/"The next Tom Brady!" Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. His success hasn't changed the way that NFL teams evaluate QBs because none of the other "next Tom Brady" QBs have done squat in the NFL, just like none of the guys who were supposed to be the next Joe Montana or Drew Brees have. Some guys are just unique. Another thing: plenty of QBs have those same "intangibles/winning traits" AND the physical ability and/or stats to go with it.

You aren't a real UGA fan! Well a "real UGA fan" would realize that Eric Zeier, David Greene, Aaron Murray, Matt Stafford, D.J. Shockley and even Quincy Carter would have benefited mightily from the talent and coaching that UGA has had the past 2 seasons that Fromm has had at his disposal. Murray is the #1 all time SEC passer and #2 isn't close. Greene is #3 and Zeier is #6. They are - collectively and individually - ahead of guys like the Manning brothers, the Florida QBs and even the Kentucky spread guys. Those guys just didn't have a team around them to do their abilities justice.

You want some NFL team to invest a #1 draft pick in a guy who couldn't get better numbers to Riley Ridley, Mecole Hardman, Isaac Nauta and Terry Godwin. As if it is easier to get the ball to guys like that in the NFL or something.

Read what our opponent's fans have to say. Some echo you, while others quickly say that he is elite. It is certainly a debate among other fan bases, too. His arm is plenty strong enough. It isnt Matt Stafford strong, but what has that done for the Lions? Ryan Leaf? Cannon of an arm. Peyton Manning's arm was never on the level of either of those two. Accuracy, ability to hit WRs on the run, and ability to read defenses is way more important than arm strength. Jarrod Goff's arm isnt nearly as strong as Carson Wentz, who isnt as strong as Paxton Lynch. Goff went #1. Wentz #2. Lynch #28? Point is they dont always place arm strength above the other variables.

This isnt about draft position, but look at the greatest QBs of alltime. Montana's arm wasnt great. He couldnt throw a tight spiral, either. Fromm's arm was definitely stronger. Jim Young? Probably similar arm strength. Point is that he has enough arm strength to get in the conversation of the 1st couple rounds.

Fromm most impresses me when he throws to the sideline, and he can drop the ball in to tight spaces. Three passes in the SECCG stand out to me. The long pass Mecole dropped in the endzone could not have been thrown better by Aaron Rodgers.
The pass to the flat over Swift's head looked simple but was a very difficult "lob" pass. Finally, the pass to Ridley in the front corner of the endzone was one of the prettiest passes that any of us have ever seen, you included. There are many starting QBs in the NFL who would struggle to make the throws to Swift and Ridley.

Bottom line, I would say the majority of people on this board and others saying Fromm will be one of the first QBs taken are almost entirely basing their opinion on what they have read on the internet from proven NFL scouts. Maybe you are right and pretty much every expert forecasting future NFL drafts is wrong. What kind of odds would you place on that?

CZCashvilleDawg

@judasdurant said:
Justin Herbert, pegged by many as the #1 QB prospect in this draft, announced today he will return to school for his senior year.

This means there will potentially be 3 top QBs in next years draft (Tua, Fromm, Herbert). Maybe that’ll influence jake to stay for his senior year

Throw is potentially Eason as well (if he wins the job and has a big year).

DawginSC

@a_rattler said:
I still don't get the "Jake Fromm top draft prospect" thing. Fromm is average-above average physically in terms of arm strength and height and he has never either dominated a game - even against pedestrian foes - or put UGA on his back and carried them. To put it another way, Fromm plays for a top 5 program. He is not the reason UGA is a top 5 program.

When responding, please none of these two canards.

His leadership/intelligence/intangibles/"he's a winner!"/"The next Tom Brady!" Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. His success hasn't changed the way that NFL teams evaluate QBs because none of the other "next Tom Brady" QBs have done squat in the NFL, just like none of the guys who were supposed to be the next Joe Montana or Drew Brees have. Some guys are just unique. Another thing: plenty of QBs have those same "intangibles/winning traits" AND the physical ability and/or stats to go with it.

You aren't a real UGA fan! Well a "real UGA fan" would realize that Eric Zeier, David Greene, Aaron Murray, Matt Stafford, D.J. Shockley and even Quincy Carter would have benefited mightily from the talent and coaching that UGA has had the past 2 seasons that Fromm has had at his disposal. Murray is the #1 all time SEC passer and #2 isn't close. Greene is #3 and Zeier is #6. They are - collectively and individually - ahead of guys like the Manning brothers, the Florida QBs and even the Kentucky spread guys. Those guys just didn't have a team around them to do their abilities justice.

You want some NFL team to invest a #1 draft pick in a guy who couldn't get better numbers to Riley Ridley, Mecole Hardman, Isaac Nauta and Terry Godwin. As if it is easier to get the ball to guys like that in the NFL or something.

A couple of things.

The physical side. Jake Fromm was a 5-star prospect... not a 3-star guy like a david greene. Everyone seems to want to call him physically pedestrian because he doesn't have Stafford's arm or Cam Newton's athleticism. But here's the thing... while he's not Cam Newton athletic... he is actually very athletic. More than guys considered to be the athletic type like a Teddy Bridgewater. While he doesn't have Stafford's rocket arm... he's got NFL level arm strength.

David Morris, a well known QB "guru" who works with many NFL guys said this about Fromm: “I would say he has plenty of arm,” Morris said. “He actually has a strong arm. He doesn’t have the Josh Allen arm where he can throw it 70 yards, but you don’t need to do that. And Josh Allen struggles with accuracy. Josh would like to have the accuracy Jake’s got. Jake has anticipation, touch, arm strength and accuracy.
Jake's numbers are astoundingly good. YOur'e confusing volume with production. He's 9th in the nation in completion percentage, ahead of Tua and Will Grier. He's 6th in yards per pass attempt, ahead of guys like Ian Book and Dwayne Haskins. He's 3rd in QB rating, behind only Kyler Murray and Tua. These are elite passing numbers... from a QB who doesn't throw the ball 40 times a game. Volume is not an indicator of ability.

The fact of the matter is that when you look at the Rose Bowl last year... one QB was looking to the sidelines for audible calls, completed 66% of his passes for 2 TD and 1 INT and had a 147 passer rating. The other called his own audibles, completed 69% of his passes for 2 TD and 0 INT and had a 152 rating. The former was a senior Heisman winning QB who went #1 in the draft. The second was true Freshman Jake Fromm.

RxDawg

Good point, but I don't think Fromm is worried about what any other QB is going to do. He came to UGA with Eason and wasn't scared of that in the slightest. If he's picked high enough he will probably go and rightly so.

Mia_Dade06

From is the coach on the field. He goes through his first, second, and third reads and is extremely accurate. Arm strenth is adequate but he’s definitely no Mahommes. I think he can be a mid to late first rounder in a qb starved nfl.

Acrum21

We know tech looked awful last night rattler.. doesn't mean you have to come in here and crap on fromm

WCDawg

@PerroGrande said:
Well, I pretty much disagree with everybody here. Rewatch the SECCG and you will see the NFL QB--#11 in Red & Black. It is possible Fromm was extremely lucky, but I think he is just improving, as one might expect. So, I think he goes in the first round next year and the Dawg fans here are dreaming about him staying--he'd be crazy to turn the NFL down.

Jake's family seems to be doing fine financially. I don't think staying would be ****, but I wouldn't blame him for taking the money either.

TNDawg71

IMHO, I think he play 4 years and is picked mid-late first round.

judasdurant

@a_rattler said:
I still don't get the "Jake Fromm top draft prospect" thing. Fromm is average-above average physically in terms of arm strength and height and he has never either dominated a game - even against pedestrian foes - or put UGA on his back and carried them. To put it another way, Fromm plays for a top 5 program. He is not the reason UGA is a top 5 program.

When responding, please none of these two canards.

His leadership/intelligence/intangibles/"he's a winner!"/"The next Tom Brady!" Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. His success hasn't changed the way that NFL teams evaluate QBs because none of the other "next Tom Brady" QBs have done squat in the NFL, just like none of the guys who were supposed to be the next Joe Montana or Drew Brees have. Some guys are just unique. Another thing: plenty of QBs have those same "intangibles/winning traits" AND the physical ability and/or stats to go with it.

You aren't a real UGA fan! Well a "real UGA fan" would realize that Eric Zeier, David Greene, Aaron Murray, Matt Stafford, D.J. Shockley and even Quincy Carter would have benefited mightily from the talent and coaching that UGA has had the past 2 seasons that Fromm has had at his disposal. Murray is the #1 all time SEC passer and #2 isn't close. Greene is #3 and Zeier is #6. They are - collectively and individually - ahead of guys like the Manning brothers, the Florida QBs and even the Kentucky spread guys. Those guys just didn't have a team around them to do their abilities justice.

You want some NFL team to invest a #1 draft pick in a guy who couldn't get better numbers to Riley Ridley, Mecole Hardman, Isaac Nauta and Terry Godwin. As if it is easier to get the ball to guys like that in the NFL or something.

Why are you still on this board? Do you not have family to spend time with at Christmas so you just go and comment on other teams boards? And it’s not just uga fans saying that, it’s nfl scouts. Please go back to the fsu board and talk about how excited y’all are to potentially make a bowl game next year

RandomFan

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/story/_/id/25548365/meet-2019-nfl-draft-quarterback-class-everything-need-know
The quarterback class for the 2019 NFL draft became clearer Wednesday as Oregon's Justin Herbert, who was ranked the No. 1 QB by ESPN NFL draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr., announced that he is returning to school for another year. Herbert will join a loaded 2020 class with the likes of Alabama's Tua Tagovailoa, Georgia's Jake Fromm and others.