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Wealthy parents bribe their kids in to elite colleges using athletic teams

Bankwalker

This is some crazy stuff just breaking today, with high profile people, including hollywood types, paying huge bribes for their kids to get in places like Stanford, Yale, Georgetown etc. The women’s soccer coach at Yale and Sailing coach at Stanford have been accused of accepting bribes while using the athletics teams to gain preferred admission status for the applicants even though they never played soccer. Someone else would take the SAT or ACT to get scores above the admission threshold and then the coach would push them thru to guarantee admission. I assume they were still “walk-ons”.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/college-entrance-exam-cheating

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Bankwalker

Another link from the New York Times for those afraid of the Fox link

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/us/college-cheating-scandal.amp.html

RobbieRob14

Now this is something worth the FBI's time. Better than wire tapping college basketball coaches' phones.

RxDawg

Money talks.... and tends to destroy all integrity in the process.

LowcountryDawg21

Sailing coach...😂😂😂

TNDawg71

Disgusting, makes me wonder what these students would do once they got there, are they planning on bribing their way through the classes too?

Teddy

Nothing new. You think all those rich boosters who have kids on the football, soccer, etc. team actually deserve it? Some of the kids deserve it, most don't. But if daddy forks over a few million, you bet there will be a spot on the team. And if some are willing to pay a lot to get their kid on a team, you better believe they'd do it for grades too.

Bankwalker

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/223896#Comment_223896

the fact the most elite academic institutions in America are involved is what is so shocking.

Then again, Ive never doubted Dubya had behind the scenes help getting in to Yale and then Harvard.

YaleDawg

I wouldn't call Georgetown, Stanford, UCLA, USD, USC, UT Austin, Wake Forest, and Yale most of the elite academic institutions in America. This type of stuff is likely happening at many more places, but these are just the universities involved with "The Key" college counseling business which organized all the fraud.

Bankwalker

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/223912#Comment_223912

There is a dofference between saying “the most elite” and “most of the elite”.

You do have a point about Yale. Apparently just about anyone can get in there nowadays.

YaleDawg

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/223917#Comment_223917

You're right I misread it. My bad. Didn't go for undergrad, but yeah there are definitely many undergrads that got in because they had parents with money or influence. Most get in on merit but still too many that ride their parents' coattails.

WCDawg

Yale has always been by and for old money and social connections. JFK actually made a joke while giving a speech at Yale. The gist was Harvard for brains, Yale for social ties.

pgjackson

Not sure how this is much different than some elite athlete who barely scores an 18 on the ACT gets a full scholarship to an elite school, or countless other athletes who barely speak English get into prestigious schools. College is a business. They exist to make money. I don't really care if someone bribes their way into college. That's the college's business. If parents want to pay the school a ton of money to let their little Johnny sit in class and go to fraternity parties, so what? Now, if they were bribing he school into giving little Johnny a scholarship paid through public funds....that is different. I really don't care how "elite" schools fill their classrooms.

WCDawg

PG. well athletes bring talent and skill to the institutions, rich kids just buy their way in or ride their parents coattails as legacies.

Say a kid gets in because she is a talented pianist, would that really be much different than having a well developed talent at throwing a ball ?

YaleDawg

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/223925#Comment_223925

It'd be one thing if it was a wealthy donor giving money directly to the school with a wink and a nod (still wrong imo) but this was a guy bribing ACT officials and college coaches to get kids in to these schools which is racketeering.

Edit: most schools receive public funds, so it's a big deal if there is large scale fraud displacing deserving students.

pgjackson

https://forum.dawgnation.com/discussion/comment/223928#Comment_223928

Just saying it's not shocking that undeserving kids get into college. As far as being a college "student", there isn't much difference between an athlete with questionable academic abilities on scholarship and a rich kid who faked his way in. Actually, the athlete is using public funds while the rich kid is paying out of pocket. Big schools admit thousands of freshmen every year and thousands drop out every year. So what if a couple sneak in through the cracks? It all seems to work out in the end.