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In Georgia they do budgeting exercises and how the length of loans affects total cost of cars and homes. The point being not to live beyond your means.
I'm seeing straight algebra in my 3rd graders math homework. They're looking at a math problem forwards, backwards, inside out,... etc. It's pretty crazy. This is because the USA was getting left behind by some other countries in these topics, Japan for instance. So they're trying to better themselves. So... that's great.
Except... we believe in equal outcomes now over equal opportunity. So we think EVERY child must fit this mold. We probably should do a better job of ID'ing who this is good for and focusing on other areas for others students.
That wouldn't be an economics class. That’s personal finance, and they are already shown compounding in earlier math. People think the price of gas goes up and down because they have been told some greedy dude decided to make it that way. They want cheap stuff made in America by Union workers who are paid top dollar and have no clue why that model doesn’t work. You don’t need an MBA or even a bachelor’s degree to understand, yet here we are as a society fighting for or against central govt as a provider. People don’t understand the forces driving the economy because we only show it to them one time for 30 seconds over their first 12 years of school, and don’t even teach it again for 90% of college level degree programs. Thus - we have the young lady in New York and our crazy uncle with dried spit in the corner of his mouth.
Yes, and plenty think that foreigners took the line jobs rather than automation and other technology. Works both ways on the ideological front.
I am suggesting that the main purpose of 1-12 schooling is to make a good citizen. That means in this context learning the basics of being a good consumer/purchaser and how to evaluate what is being said. Should be able to walk before running. Plenty of college students flunk economics - cannot grasp the definitions of "supply" and "demand". Also, many HS students would flunk that, but can benefit from what you call personal finance.
Even after an "economics" course, they will likely believe the oil companies when they say (in spring): "the heating season was longer than we anticipated so gasoline stocks are lower than expected, driving up the price"; and (in fall), "the heating season came on quicker than we thought so that heating oil stocks are lower than expected, therefore driving up the price". (The old standby is that there was unanticipated "maintenance" needed on a refinery.) Yet, in spring and fall, there is always enough gas/heating oil. One is born every second.
As to all getting the same program, some communities split off some non-college track kids to technical school, which can be very competitive to get in. Don't know if Georgia does this. Having all on a college track is dumb - just as dumb as teaching spelling without reference to learning syllables.
I agree. Identify those who have a knack for math and then encourage them to pursue that gift. Forcing every HS kid to suffer through advanced math is absurd. This is not the kind of math we did in HS or even college. Even math teachers struggle teaching it. We don’t make those gifted math students hit a baseball or draw a photo-realistic fruit bowl in order to graduate. It’s actually kind of the opposite...kids gifted in the arts are virtually discouraged from developing those gifts...like it’s just a silly hobby. You gotta rock the math and science to get into college.
Every freshman in high school should be required to take a full year course on personal financial management. If you can't manage your money, you'll probably struggle.
If you guys want this kind of stuff it will take an overhaul of the education system and a commitment of several years as well as lots of money. You want kids to have more options to look into tradesmen jobs without affecting advanced math and science? You need more teachers and more supplies. Maybe offer junior apprenticeship courses with local tradesmen throughout the year to expose them to that. More money for learning a trade after high school. Maybe incentivize colleges to offer those types of programs so they can still have the college experience. As it stands there isn't enough money to hire more teachers and expand the curriculum. I agree it needs to happen but will take a concerted offer from voters across the ideological spectrum to make it happen.
I could care less. As long as the money goes to help other students, Im ok. Build a science lab, library, housing, etc.
Also, if long their kids get the boot just like other students if they cant maintain academically, then its justifiable.
Here is the OP (couldn't quote): "This is some crazy stuff just breaking today, with high profile people, including hollywood types, paying huge bribes for their kids to get in places like Stanford, Yale, Georgetown etc. The women’s soccer coach at Yale and Sailing coach at Stanford have been accused of accepting bribes while using the athletics teams to gain preferred admission status for the applicants even though they never played soccer. Someone else would take the SAT or ACT to get scores above the admission threshold and then the coach would push them thru to guarantee admission. I assume they were still “walk-ons”."
Giving money to get your child into the college of choice is okay with me as long as there is a lot of it. Dam~n the grades, extracurricular activities, SATs/ACTs, essay quality, peer and counselor reviews, etc. As long as it is ....
But the use of an athletic team as a dodge to lower the admission standards, or committing the fraud of faking standardized tests, is not acceptable, and those involved - all knowingly involved - should be prosecuted appropriately. And the athletic teams need to be penalized in an appropriate manner.
The money threshold if established by a school is a barrier to those parents who are well-off, but not THAT well-off. So, the accrediting bodies need to be vigilant and sanction those schools who deviate from the money threshold minimums. So, schools should have a minimum dollar amount, and not deviate from it.
What is accomplished? Well, almost no well qualified students will be blocked due to clever parents who sought an easy path. And the testing organizations will be less likely to be corrupted, and the teams will not be compromised. So, there.
Pretty spot-on.
I keep reading that these actresses are likely to do real time. First off, I seriously doubt any parent will go to prison. Second, I think it would probably be wrong if they were to do more than a month or 2 in a non-pound me in the bum facility.
We saw the world's largest theft in all history in the 2008 financial/Wall St. scams, almost nobody was even charged, the crooks kept the trillions of dollars and paid virtually no price for ruining 100s of thousands of lives and almost ruining this Country.
Lauri Laughlin has probably been a bad mother. She clearly didn't push her daughters enough academically, plus the girls don't seem bright to start with. She has said she worries sick about their futures, I believe her. So she did something to better the little fluff headed gals chances of making something of their own. I believe this sort of thing is extremely unfair to less advantaged kids and those who were in it purely out of greed should do hard time, but the families ? probably not.
Yale. I think apprentice like programs are a great idea. A small town in Mississippi has been successful in combining tax incentives and marrying local tech schools with industries/companies long before the factories start production. So adding a government program to help cover the cost of preparing people for specific jobs seems like a more direct and proactive way advance more than just the computer scientist and upper management types. We need to own the best work force on the planet in the coming years, plus the bottom line is always going to be the quality of life of our citizens, not how many smart bombs we own.
I lived relatively close to there in MS and it was a remarkably successful program.
Donm, was it Jackson Mississippi ? I don't have a firm memory of exactly where it was. It goes to show how much a few proactive citizens thinking outside the box can make a real difference.
You know who else thinks outside the box..gay men. Don't ban me, I didn't mean it in a negative way.
I think it was a good bit more rural than that, but heck my memory isn't exactly a steel trap any more either.