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Yep. This could get interesting. But now we have a different situation. Before it was just some rich parents getting their kids accepted for admission. Now we are talking about kids not just getting accepted into a school, but getting full NCAA athletic scholarships based on fraud.
Pat Dye must be getting nervous
Those mocking the case might feel differently if they had a child they'd nurtured for 18 years who had the qualifications but was turned down by Yale or another school who sold their spot to some privileged son or daughter who was less qualified. This is essentially a zero sum game, there is a finite number of spots at these elite institutions and studies show the long term value of a diploma from one of those schools is life changing.
Lawsuits have value beyond those directly involved. They serve to moderate future behaviors.
One of my good friends is a high school principle. He says the crap that private schools get away with in sports, and still compete with the public schools is pretty outrageous. One example is they will state they have a student population of say 1000, and get lumped into the other public schools division of 1000 students. What they don't say is that they have a 1000 male students on this side of the street, and don't count the 1000 female students across the street. So they essentially compete in a division where everyone else has half the students to make a football team with.
3rd rule of EMS: If its warm and sticky and its not yours, leave it alone.
because there are no poor white communities in this country!
it already happens to a greater degree based on skin color
Yep no need to make a race issue out of it. There is definitely a class issue.
Parental involvement, not financial reaources, is what determines the quality of a school system. City of Atlanta schools has a huge budget, but the quality of the individual schools varies drastically from one zip code to the next. Lack of money is just a lazy excuse. How a student performs in american history or the low level math classes taught in earlier years, reading ability, etc has virtually nothing to do with technology and investment.
I agree that both parental involvement and overall environment have a huge impact on education results. If your environment is both nurturing and demanding, your chances of success in the classroom and in life are exponentially better than if you live in a bad environment.
Mentors can make a big difference, but they have to be there regularly for the child. Coaches, teachers, church leaders, Scout leaders, Boys And Girls Clubs, etc. I think funding mentoring organizations can be very effective in disadvantaged neighborhoods.
The “entitlement mentality” is actually a socially designed personality trait. The larger problem with the school systems and higher learning spans the entire spectrum of educational achievement - and that is by design.
A 2007 survey from the Intercollegiate Studies Institute showed that college students graduate with less knowledge of history, politics, and economics than they had before they entered. The same is true of students leaving HS today vs students from my generation and the ones previous.
Our educational “system” has been manipulated to produce a desired citizen - one who understands very little about basic economies of scale and price elasticity, the Founding Fathers, or what separates what has been called the‘Great Experiment’ in severely limited central government, aka The United States of America, from the rest of the World.
Reading about Laurie Laughlin's daughter puts their case in a different light. It looks far more like a pure business bribe to me now. She clearly wanted in USC to further her social media business. She is on video expressing her desire to party and socialize while also saying she had no interest in using it to further her education. The girl now bases her 2 million plus subscriber social media company almost entirely on her USC experiences.
I'd treat her family's case like any other felony bribery prosecution.
The move towards "accountability" made us create more standardized tests. Which has made for more working towards those tests, because the schools are incentivized. to do so. I will say the my daughter's Math classes move very quickly and have been pretty advanced and I was always in the top classes at a good school.
STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) screwed up the system. This idea that every student needs to be well versed in science and math is absurd. Got rid of Economics, Shop, Music, History, PE classes in favor of hard sciences. I challenge anyone on this forum to complete a mandatory high school Algebra II class. Helping my son with his Algebra was probably the most frustrating and traumatic academic experience of my life. Square root of -i (negative i). **** is that? Your telling me some inner city kid with no family support needs to know imaginary numbers? They want kids to know advanced math concepts, but has no idea how to keep a budget.