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The Hawks drew picks 8 and 10...we got hosed...

WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
edited May 14 in Basketball

I'm not saying it was rigged, I don't think that at all. We did lose a total of 6 spots though. We lost 3 from our finsh of 5th and 3 from the Dallas pick...damnit. So we won't get any of the players we hoped to have a shot at with our first pick. Who knows though, we might get lucky and find a gem at 8 or 10.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch. The Knicks had the best odds of landing the top spot, they drew the 3rd pick.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Could have been worse for the Hawks. At least they got the pick from Dallas. As we saw from the other teams that moved up, Dallas landing somewhere 1-4 easily could have happened. It will depend on which teams fall in love with which players but a pairing of Hayes along with someone like Reddish or Clarke is still possible at 8 and 10.

  • dawgitimafandawgitimafan Posts: 368 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Terrible

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I wouldn't touch Reddish, shooting a bit north of 30% on the college level is turrable, just turrable. I'd take Hayes at 8 if he's still available and the best player available at 10. In such the thin draft this was a tough break.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I might shop both 8 and 10 to move up to 3 and take Barrett.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 14

    Yeah, I penciled in Hayes at 8 and was really stuck on who I would look at in the 10 spot. Would need to do more research now they the order is set. Particularly with the 2nd round assets Schlenk has to work with as well a trade up could happen.

  • dawgitimafandawgitimafan Posts: 368 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Don't think you could move that high with those picks, might could get to the Lakers 4 spot if you added someone they wanted from the current Hawks team.

  • dawgitimafandawgitimafan Posts: 368 ✭✭✭ Junior

    This draft is so top heavy it might be better to just stay with the eight and 10 and hope someone flashes. I see no point in trading up unless you could actually get a top three pick. I just don't see any GM in his right mind doing that deal.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 14

    No way I'd give up 8, 10 and a desirable player off the current roster to move up to 4. I think 8 and 10 should be enough for the 3rd pick. I don't think I'd give up both 1st rd picks unless I could get Barrett.

    I might move #8 and our early 2nd rd pick to move up for either Culver or DeAndre Hunter if possible.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 14

    dawgtimafam. Hunter, White or Culver might end up being close to as good as Barrett, but obviously Barrett looks like the 3rd best prospect in this draft. Last year there was all kinds of talent below #3.

  • dawgitimafandawgitimafan Posts: 368 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited May 14

    Which positions do you think we're targeting? Id imagine pg and power forward are covered, is everything else fair game? I kind of like jaxson Hayes at center.

  • dawgitimafandawgitimafan Posts: 368 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Yes, while we won't know for a few years, id say last year's draft was quite a bit deeper than this years.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think in general defense has to be the focus. You don't have to be top 5 in defense to win in today's game but you can't be last which the Hawks are close to being. Defense and another off the ball scorer would be my main two goals.

  • DGDinNYCDGDinNYC Posts: 328 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I'm just happy I don't have to deal with millions of Knicks fans puffing out their chests all over the city tomorrow. They're already insufferable.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    PTDawg. Not only were The Hawks last in scoring defense in The NBA in 2018/2019, they gave up more PPG than any team in the past 27 years...YIKES ! If we'd had a decent draw we might have landed both Hunter and Jaxson, 2 of the best defensive players in this draft.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 14

    dawgitimafan. Center (Jaxson) SG/SF ( Hunter or Culver). It's possible either Hunter or Culver slips to #8, not likely but possible. If Jaxson then slipped to 10th, we'd have a good draft on paper.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 7,295 mod
  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Hayes and Clark would be nice. I want Admiral at 35.

  • CTDawgCTDawg Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I need to look a little deeper, but if we can get Culver at #8 (seems unlikely) and either Rui Hachimura or Bol Bol in the top 10, I would be pretty happy. I think with the schedule this team is on, still a couple years from the playoffs, I wouldn't trade both picks unless you could realistically get inside the top 3. I'm not sure Schlenk wants to do that; hitting on two top 10 quality picks can do wonders for a young franchise. Not saying that's likely, because the NBA draft is truly a crapshoot once you get past the surefire talents, but rolling the dice with multiple picks seems prudent right now. We'll see.

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Our GM is still linked to GS because of his success. So, to put things in perspective....

    Steph Curry was taken at #7

    Klay Thompson was taken at #11

    Draymond Green was taken at #35

  • TMazz2009TMazz2009 Posts: 336 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I honestly feel they need to make a move up a few spots. Culver or Hunter will more than likely be long gone....Culver was my hope if they did not squeeze in the top 3. Get up to 5th-6th and they have a much better shot to land one. Should be able to keep one of the other picks as well.

    Hawks just needs some excitement. Braves got theirs from Albies and Acuna. Hawks need to find a couple young ins people want to watch.

  • CTDawgCTDawg Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bleacher Report mock draft has the Hawks taking Reddish at 8 and Romeo Langford at #10. Both of those guys certainly fit our roster needs for some playmaking wings, but their shooting inefficiency, especially from 3, makes me a little queasy. Reddish looks like he has great potential, he just didn't put much of it together at Duke.

  • Dawgy_FreshDawgy_Fresh Posts: 493 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited May 15

    There is a history of great players picked late. Gotta hope to draft guys like examples below who in there drafts were consider projects, not talented, etc. Obviously it’s better to pick sooner but hopefully they can land a solid contributor with one of the two. Guys below are just ones who come to mind from the playoffs, didn’t include obvious blasts from past like Kobe, Manu, Parker’s

    Giannie- 15

    Mcollum-10

    Paul George-10

    Klay- 11

    Draymond -2nd Rd

    Milsap- 2nd rd

    Donovan Mitchell- 13

    Gobert- 2nd rd

    Lowry - 24

    Kawhi- 15

    Siakim -27

    Jokic- 2nd rd

    Rozier-16

  • Dawgy_FreshDawgy_Fresh Posts: 493 ✭✭✭✭ Senior


  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't want Reddish. He shot 35% or there about at Duke, potential doesn't move my meter when a player can't shoot at the college level. I think he's likely to be a dime a dozen role player.

  • Edawg537Edawg537 Posts: 17 ✭ Freshman

    They need some space tacklers.....Oops wrong incompetent team.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,127 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The more I look at this the more I think The Hawks could end up with very little value for 2 1st rd and 3 2nd rd picks in this draft.

    I'm thinking do what it takes to move up and take either Jarrett Culver or Deandre Hunter, then make a risk/reward pick and take Frenchman Sekou Doumbouya with the other 1st rd pick. I'd move all 3 2nd rd picks if that is what it takes to land Culver or Hunter. Doumbouya won't turn 19 till 2 days before Christmas. The team can afford to let him grow and develop in Europe for a year or 2. If he develops near his potential we'd end up with a defensive monster who could run the floor with the best in The NBA.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Im not sure that means as much as it would with an older player coming out after several years of college. He did that as a true freshman in his first year ever playing as a spot up and shoot option rather than the #1 option. He is definitely worth a flyer at 8 and definitely 10.

  • greshamdiscogreshamdisco Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 16

    Ever since the Ewing draft, I’ve dismissed the lottery as rigged. However, NO is not a major market team, so I’m surprised they landed at #1. This draft will be a step forward for the Hawks, but likely keeps us as a non-serious playoff team for three years down the road. We just lack a superstar.

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