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New Orleans drew the rights to Zion Williams, will Anthony Davis stay with The Pelicans now ?..

WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

He wanted to leave because he didn't see an opportunity to win in New Orleans, I'd say the odds of both staying and winning went WAY UP with a lucky ping pong ball.

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  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Totally agree. Everyone was talking leading up to the draft about New Orleans possibility trading Davis to whoever won the draft to get Zion. Now they could very well have both.

  • JoeClarkJoeClark Posts: 83 ✭✭✭ Junior

    If I were the GM, which I’m not, I’d still trade AD for years of better picks and players this year to put around Zion. Probably one bad rookie year for him and then another lottery pick kind of thing

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That's not a bad idea CrazyJoe but the NBA is such a star driven league. If you're the Pels your shortest path to contending is putting pieces around Davis and Williamson. You'd need lots of shooters.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    JoeClark. Almost every NBA champion has had at least 2 elite star players. I'd keep Davis and build around him and Williams if possible.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 7,297 mod

    AD, Jrue, and Zion is a good team. And they can offer him more money. NO should at least try to win with those guys

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    No doubt Kasey. AD with Zion, that’s a scary combo right there

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Apparently he still want some to Ben traded

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    YES, with Zion now in tow, Davis and his camp AT LEAST reconsiders his trade demands.

  • corai3corai3 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Heck they may trade Zion for another star...or like others have said, trade AD and build a young core.

  • donmdonm Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    AD isn't old...he'd certainly be part of any young core I would think.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Anthony Davis won't enter FA until after the season anyway so he may as well do all he can to make it work and c if he an Zion can become in time the NBAs most dominant duo. U need WORLD BEATERS to win an NBA Championship and looks like the "Brow" has been gifted 1in the form of Williamson.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 7,297 mod

    Word is he still wants out

    1) see what the Knicks give

    or

    2) wait till February when more teams can offer good stuff

  • AugDawg69AugDawg69 Posts: 124 ✭✭✭ Junior

    The pelicans would be fools to trade Zion. Him being at duke showed he’s a team first player. He’s a once in a life time player

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 15

    The Pelicans' management team would be foolish to go into next season without some resolution to the Davis situation. Either get him re-signed or buy a big truck to load the booty they'll get in a trade deal.

    I'm sure their preference is to re-sign him, he's still very young and they would have the potential to build a dynasty around him and Williams. The risk would be too high to just hold their hand and hope he stays.

  • SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Think it’ll still be the Lakers. The Lakers will package the number 4 overall pick along with 1-2 of their young core to NO. Any two of Ball/Kuzma/Ingram for AD. NO needs to get something now because AD is leaving.

    I don’t think the Knicks have enough to offer for trade bait. If they get Durant and Kyrie it won’t matter anyway, they’ll be positioned to come out the east annually.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    AugDawg69. It's funny that with all ZW's outrageous athleticism it's the small stuff that really makes me think he can be an all time talent. Pick any of the consensus top 20 all time players. They all had the aptitude and skill set to match and often exceed their measurable gifts. When I see Zion block/steal the ball, drive the open floor and make a fantastic bounce pass assist I know he has virtually limitless potential. He needs to get down to between 250lb and 260lb in my opinion to both stay healthy and max out his stamina, quickness and jumping ability.

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 928 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Funny thing is, pelicans could’ve had much more if they had just accepted the trade at the deadline. Every day that goes bye they lose leverage

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 7,297 mod

    Actually they gain it bc more teams can offer something. Knicks can offer pick 3, Knox, frenchie or Mitchell, smith and they Dallas picks. That’s way better than anything LA can offer

    76ers could give a package based around Ben Simmons who’s better than anyone the Lakers are dangling

    itll be interesting for sure

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If I was looking at a potential deal with The Lakers to move Davis I wouldn't touch Ball, there is far too much potential drama and the kid can't shoot. Ingram is the prize IMO, I'd ask for Ingram, Kuzma and both their 2020 and 2021 1st rd picks.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Judasdurant. If The Lakers are still in it New Orleans' leverage is still really strong. They want to play for titles while Lebron still has enough in the tank to dominate. Also Lakers' new management now has the failed 2018/2019 season to inform it, they know the current roster doesn't mesh.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If you're the Hawks, could you put together a package for Davis? Don't know that Schlenk would go for it seeing that GS is the model he came from. They weren't built by selling the farm to get a star.

  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 1,609 mod

    All the Pelican fans I talk to down here want to keep Davis along with Williamson. They are saying that combo of the 2 is good for 20-25 more wins next year. If they trade Davis they better get a lot for him or NOLA will see riots in the streets lol. They are saying he is not that unhappy he just wants to contend

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 15

    No reason to get a rental on a team not ready to compete for titles.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    PTDawg. First off I think Davis has veto power over any trade that would evolve him. Second as mentioned anybody that gives up a lot of assets will need something close to iron clad that he'll be there long term, a sign and trade maybe.

  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 1,609 mod

    Local news out of NOLA is saying 2000 more season tickets were sold than after last year's lottery, they are saying Davis is odds on to stay after being told Williamson was THE only pick and no way they are trading it.

  • ThelordjohnsonThelordjohnson Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'd trade him myself. I'd call each teamnalready knowing what I wanted.

    Knicks - #3 pick (RJ back with Zion), Knox/ Smith Jr, Robinson, and future picks.

    Celtics - Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, a big contract to even expenses, #20 pick, 2022 pick

    Lakers - Kuzma, Ingram, Lonzo, and #4 pick


    I like the Knicks pick because its a 3 man race for best players in draft and then its a drop off and besides the Celtics Brown and Tatum I dont think theres a more talented player getting traded than RJ at #3.

  • corai3corai3 Posts: 444 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Of course Pelicans fans want that, but I don't see Zion worth 20-25 more wins for the Pelicans. That would put them at 53-58 wins. No way those two with Holiday are getting that unless AD plays like the MVP. If I'm AD, I still want out. He's only got a few prime years left to cement a legacy.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Ingram, Kuzma and the 4th pick in this year's draft would be mighty tempting if there was an elite prospect at 4 in this draft. As it is that deal might hinge on how Pelicans' management views Ingram, the kid looks pretty special in his own right. Kuzma is good, but not special.

  • orlandoorlando Posts: 1,396 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I see the Hawks may go for Reddish. Personally I’d rather have Hachimura

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