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Chaney Debate - Tape Breakdown - Please! I want to hear a defense for this guy.

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  • KaseyKasey Posts: 29,876 mod

    @dawgnms said:

    @Kasey said:

    @dawgnms said:

    @donm said:

    @dawgnms said:
    Keep riding the Chaney train until it derails in a heap.

    Are you suggesting that at 9-1 we fire Chaney and bring in someone else? Whom would you bring in with 3-5 games to go? Bill Walsh? Don Coryell? We'd be better served by raising the level of play of our OL and fixing whatever else could use fixing.

    Should have fired him last year. But sigh I digress

    Yea so all our young guys can learn their fourth system in four years. Wonderful plan

    Seems to me they did not learn s h I t last night. Keep making excuses to ride the train of a 2nd rate OC

    Yea I will. One loss after 9 wins (10 if you count the last bowl game). But you can keep up the outrage industrial complex bc it’s clearly working for you. Or maybe you can apply to be offensive assistant since you have such unfettered team access and knowledge

  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 5,379 mod

    Chaney with his knowledge and unfettered access is still 2nd rate

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @NoogaDawg said:
    Also, I feel like D'Andre Swift was in the game for MAYBE 10 plays. And Herrien got a carry when we still had a chance of a comeback. I just don't understand.

    it's good for a man to know his limitations.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It's hard to improve much from being undefeated this late in the year because '17 has been good to us DAWG fans. But seeing what COULD be here if we had a more aggressive approach offensively is crazy. We are beyond predictable calling plays.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    We have averaged 41 points versus the SEC East and only been under 40 once - what is considered good enough if that ain't?

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    There's a difference in your team scoring points through the play calling, or simply scoring because you have some great fb players. When push comes to shove I've seen JC have us in position to fail more times than I'd like. We don't take chances, miss out on targeting our strengths more, and don't adjust offensively to any defensive problem we could see from anybody. If I knew what D you were running consistently; over & over, I bet I could put points up...The point is HOW GOOD we could be if this one area of our gameplan was more aggressive ! And aggressive doesn't mean going deep throwing bombs; but just opening things up and not beating our head on the door drive after drive.

  • Palm_City_DawgPalm_City_Dawg Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @12ed said:
    We should've been averaging 80-90 pts and it's all Chaney's fault. Fat people with power always cultivate laziness in organizations. Smart better watch his weight is all I gotta say, fatness is contagious and that's a pseudo scientific fact.

  • awwfake17awwfake17 Posts: 5 ✭ Freshman

    First of all,
    I dont think he should be fired right now, that's foolish. I explained I don't think he is a long term fit.
    Second of all,
    Instead of looking at results, it's important to watch tape.
    Look, the lack of variability is staggering. It appeared we didn't make any adjustments yesterday.
    More importantly, I would like to get a young quarterback into some higer efficiency pass situations instead of constant 20 yard outs.
    I don't understand the commitment to standard drops if you're going to throw it deep down the field every time.
    PA was effective in influencing defense and gave Fromm his best opportunities but was hardly used.
    Yes, execution could of been better. But, correct schemes and adjustments supplemnt player execution. You have to put players in the right spots.

    I dont think he'll be fired because of the results this season and I think we'll suffer for it.

  • bigdawg2223bigdawg2223 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If he's not fired after this year then to prevent becoming Muschamp 2.0 he'll have to fire him after next year. But I'm liking the Dan Enos suggestion

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @12ed said:

    @bigdawg2223 said:
    If he's not fired after this year then to prevent becoming Muschamp 2.0 he'll have to fire him after next year. But I'm liking the Dan Enos suggestion

    If it isn't happening this year then it won't happen next year, either. The QB with the high football IQ in his second year along with a more experienced OL(plus Salyer coming in, assuming we have him) will probably cover for some of Chaney's in-game deficits. I'm bearish on Chaney but bullish on our offensive potential in spite of Chaney. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I just don't trust fat people.

    I don't know much about Dan Enos except he isn't fat and he was Kirby's first choice. Could somebody give me an idea of what his offense resembles when he has the personnel to execute? I'm fat and lazy so I don't feel like studying it. Just tell me if it looks neat or not.(and if he makes in-game adjustments when chit goes wrong) TIA.

    edit:

    "I want to give him the doubt but I just don't trust fat people." Imma fking potato today, cant type for chit. thanks Chaney. This is your fault.

    Santa will be sad to hear your fat shaming comments.

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @NoogaDawg said:
    I'm not on the Fire Jim Chaney train yet because I think he called some great games this year. But he was terrible this game. I agree with everything in that huge post at least as far as how Chaney screwed up in the Auburn game. I felt like I was banging my head against a wall over and over as we ran Chubb up the middle twice and then had an incomplete pass on 3rd down. Im not saying we should fire him but he needs to learn how to adjust when his initial game plan doesn't pan out.

    How long has he been an OC. He is not going to learn.

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Denmen185 said:
    We have averaged 41 points versus the SEC East and only been under 40 once - what is considered good enough if that ain't?

    Which sec east team is even a little good.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That's the really bad part. He isn't going anywhere simply because we have enough talent to win most games. You'll see when we're in another dawgfight how predictable we are.

  • dradcliffdradcliff Posts: 604 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Why must Chaney go?
    Because everyone has known this defense was coming and if not this week than certainly against Bama. Yet he arrived unprepared to do anything different. At some point you have to take chances. We allowed Auburn to get the momentum, and our offence never did anything to help get it back. Fromm did everything that was asked of him. It was not his fault. Their dline was killing us and our OC had no idea what to do about it.

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