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Even if an agent paid players from a particular team it's only a team violation if a representative of that program had a role or knew of the transaction. They could still have to forfeit games though.
Short term recruiting shouldn't dictate the process in my opinion.
That said, if we're replacing Fox, and I hope we do there is not reason other than perhaps the FBI investigation to drag it out.
If we make the right hire, recruiting will improve over the long haul.
feds will pursue where there is enough to pursue criminally...or at least try ...wire fraud...??? maybe a stretch..... Its good pr for them in a time where they need it. A good "cleaning up our centers of edu" move. Its tough for the ncaa to do anything... unless its to a specific current player....look at all the unc impropriety....nothing has been done to this point and they have another tittle post revelation. As far as it relates to fox....remember the chris rock bit made even more famous by the office..."the cookie bit"....should fox be retained for not cheating....I think even fox himself would say a coach should be judged on his merit. Fox has stayed @ a safe working distance from the ever talented and shaddy top tier aau scene (esp atl) He is a clear system guy who recruits kids to play within...To his credit... his kids play d with effort...that is rare...but he has overlooked certain in state kids...or chosen not to recruit them for one reason or another that has been a topic of question for some time. imo the simple fact that turtle (or any of our guards) has/have trouble consistently creating/scoring when the set breaks down may cost fox his job...UGA has to seriously contemplate if it wants to make bball a priority....as kirby has done and is doing....if we keep a few of our best players in state...everything can change quickly...is UGA wiling to do what it takes to do that....???
I agree 1000% and don't let the folks who are willing to violate their ethics for a few more Ws stop you from being an honorable Dawg fan. There are two many on this site (and just in general in today's society) who do not let reality be a factor in how they think. It is impossible to say that a clean coach can compete against dirty coaches.
I ran for elected office one time in Georgia against a very corrupt incumbent (in the primary so it wasn't a party vs party election). I was ahead in the polls and the money raising. But once everyone realized the incumbent was going to lose, everyone jumped in and helped the incumbent violating election law, party bylaws, etc along the way. Could I have won in a fair contest? Yes. Can I win when the other side plays dirty? No. Folks on this site need to learn that it is absurd to say they want someone to be clean and win if the cheating is so flagrant and widespread that it in effect makes it almost impossible to be clean and win. Yes there are folks who are clean and win, but those programs also have more of a basketball tradition than UGA. Fox is fighting both tradition and cheating. What on Earth do the armchair quarterbacks think he can do????
I do not think anyone is suggesting we pay players or bend the rules, but here's a small list of teams that are projected on making the field of 68 this year, and are not under FBI or NCAA scrutiny;
-Miami
-LSU
Penn State
-Nebraska
Ohio State
-Florida
-Auburn
-Tennessee
-Alabama
-Missouri
I'd go out on a limb and say those are mostly "football" schools without a too rich basketball history, yet they seem to "play by the rules" and are at least NCAA tournament contention each year. No one is asking for us to be a blue blood, just more competitive on the floor with the amount of talent in state.
Just a thought - not making accusations... but...
Who's to say Fox is even running a clean program? They weren't listed in the latest investigation, but just might mean that we're better at it than others, or just got lucky. People have said paying players is commonplace these days - who's to say we're clean on this? Just hypothesizing here, not trying to say we ARE guilty, but just something to think about.
If UGA has been paying players, then they need a refund... I think this whole basketball thing can be sorted out pretty easily. UGA has to figure out if it wants to compete in basketball or not (and no, I don't mean pay players). It would start with expanding it's budget liberally. Hiring a $3+ million/yr coach, upgraded facilities, more staff (a la Kirby), etc. etc.... But maybe UGA gets it, others are running dirty programs, and doesn't want to get the university caught up in that rat race. But, if they'd open up the budget for better coaches, amongst other things, they'd at least go dancing a little more often. And who knows, maybe we could make a run like South Carolina every once in a while.
Why would I think about it? It’s been clear for years that Fox won’t play the AAU/shoe game. I think it’s not a productive exercise to think about your hypothetical.
How do you not call a timeout on that last possession? What an embarrassing loss on Senior Night.
Really really sucks for our seniors... Puts the nail in the coffin on our tourney hopes. Annd probably ole Mark Fox
That loss is frustrating.
he like to lose tho
UGA basketball in a nutshell. We've lost so many of these close, winnable games in the last five years that I've long ago stopped counting. Last three minutes of these close games are too frequently a parade of mistakes. Foolish, careless play, inability to break a press, and complete ineptitude on the offensive end in clutch-time. Last possession with game on the line is always to hope for a foul or throw up a prayer. I like Fox as a person...but it's beyond time for a new coach.
I’d be surprised if the search isn’t already well underway. I’d imagine you can’t really interview until (1) Foxis fired, and (2) conference and / or post season tournaments are over. That will put a damper on recruiting, but it can’t be helped. Coaching changes are never good on this side of them, but obviously it does offer some opportunities on the back side.
Every school has a short list of candidates to start with. This has been a thing since when LSU lost their football coach to a plane crash. If Fox isn’t fired it’s because of the investigation that is happen with FBI. If he is fired, why not go with a home grown person like Jonas Hayes.
Also from a earlier post Auburn and Bama are involved with the FBI investigation. Miami has their own problems with a NCAA investigation into the basketball program. There really isn’t too many clean college programs because there so few great prospects. Also AAU is a huge problem with the sport. Get rid of AAU and would solve a lot of the cheating problems because it would take things back through the high school not some rando who doesn’t have a real job and is living off 17 and 18 year old kids.