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Sean Newcomb seems to waste a lot of power potential..

WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

I know his mechanics were deliberately dialed back by our minor league pitching coaches, but I just don't understand why he doesn't drive off his left leg.
The kid is built to pitch like Roger Clemens, but he collapses is support leg and loses a ton of the kinetic force that should come through his hips. In the long run he's likely to wear his shoulder and arm as well.
Has anybody else noticed this ?

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  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:
    I know his mechanics were deliberately dialed back by our minor league pitching coaches, but I just don't understand why he doesn't drive off his left leg.
    The kid is built to pitch like Roger Clemens, but he collapses is support leg and loses a ton of the kinetic force that should come through his hips. In the long run he's likely to wear his shoulder and arm as well.
    Has anybody else noticed this ?

    If he fails as a pitcher he can always play safety. Doesn't develop enough kinetic force through his hips to play CB.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:
    I know his mechanics were deliberately dialed back by our minor league pitching coaches, but I just don't understand why he doesn't drive off his left leg.
    The kid is built to pitch like Roger Clemens, but he collapses is support leg and loses a ton of the kinetic force that should come through his hips. In the long run he's likely to wear his shoulder and arm as well.
    Has anybody else noticed this ?

    If he fails as a pitcher he can always play safety. Doesn't develop enough kinetic force through his hips to play CB.

    Too tall and heavy for safety, but keep thinking outside the box.

  • Acrum21Acrum21 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm Newcomb is 6'5 255. He doesn't quite have the bend and quick twitch I like for the edge so he would project as a 5 tech IMO.

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Acrum21 said:
    @donm Newcomb is 6'5 255. He doesn't quite have the bend and quick twitch I like for the edge so he would project as a 5 tech IMO.

    I'm pretty sure I was joking.

  • JackLatttyJackLattty Posts: 79 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Whatever he is doing it sure is working recently

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2018

    @JackLattty said:
    Whatever he is doing it sure is working recently

    Amen. Now if he can only talk to Folty, we'd be in tall grass.

  • BoroDawgBoroDawg Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You don’t have to throw 98 to be an effective pitcher. He finally has fastball command. I’ll take 93 with accuracy over 98 and wild all day every day.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @Acrum21 said:
    @donm Newcomb is 6'5 255. He doesn't quite have the bend and quick twitch I like for the edge so he would project as a 5 tech IMO.

    I'm pretty sure I was joking.

    Not my OP. I'm serious, it's not just my thinking either.
    You'll find similar thoughts on Youtube.
    The Braves had him alter his mechanics in the minors,but show me a great power pitcher with a long career of dominance who didn't drive through toward the plate with his support leg. As with Maddux it also is repeatable and fosters movement on the ball.

  • BamaDawgBamaDawg Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Pitching is like real estate. Location, Location, Location...

    Grag Maddux and Tom Glavine taught us that.

    Also, chicks dig the long ball....

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BoroDawg said:
    You don’t have to throw 98 to be an effective pitcher. He finally has fastball command. I’ll take 93 with accuracy over 98 and wild all day every day.

    He is doing this with mostly his upper body, that rarely works long term. He gets away with it now because he's large and powerful, but Clemens kept his health and power because he used great body mechanics where his power came from the ground up with minimal stress.
    Tom Glavine was 42 before he went of the DL, Maddux spent a grand total of 15 days on the DL over his entire 23 year career. Both pitched with superb and easy mechanics.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:

    @Acrum21 said:
    @donm Newcomb is 6'5 255. He doesn't quite have the bend and quick twitch I like for the edge so he would project as a 5 tech IMO.

    I'm pretty sure I was joking.

    Not my OP, I'm not the only person who sees it either.

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I agree. His motion looks so lazy. I have no idea how he gets any velocity behind his pitches

  • donmdonm Posts: 10,241 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Is lazy the same as “smooth” or “effortless” ?

  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @donm said:
    Is lazy the same as “smooth” or “effortless” ?

    Eh not really. He doesn’t really follow through or push off with his back leg that hard. That’s the difference between 93/94 where he is now and 97/98 where he could be with his size

  • dbrown7494dbrown7494 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Maybe he can’t control his 97 mph fastball like his 93 mph because control is much more important than mph in my opinion.
    The other thought is maybe he is not trying to throw 100% percent like most guys do on every pitch in today’s baseball. Where pitchers used to only throw the ball at 70 to 80% which wasn’t his max speed but when he needs the 100% he can get to it.

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