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  • oldon42oldon42 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    In my opinion the decrease in the run game was caused by several factors. First and the most important was the lack of receivers that caused any defense to fear them. Who of Georgia's receivers had real break away speed? For example Georgia's top three non freshman receivers were all hampered by injuries. The second problem was instability on the O-line. Georgia's O-line rarely had the same five starters start multiple games. In 2017 the O-line started the same five with only one change all year. It was also true that everyone and that includes me had unreasonable expectations for Zamir White coming off two ACL's. While D'Andre Swift was a great back I think he was overused and this led to his nagging injuries.

  • gdawg4lifegdawg4life Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I know it isn't realistic this year, but I would LOVE if Hines Ward became our WR coach. He has expressed interest in coming back one day and coaching. I think he'd be an INCREDIBLE recruiter and could certainly develop the WR's.

  • JimmyBobJimmyBob Posts: 197 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Wasn’t d-Rob supposed to have that breakaway speed? Was he hurt this year, or did Fromm just miss him open a lot, which has been suggested by many posters here and elsewhere? And does that speed really mean much? I’m thinking of both Tyler Simmons and going in the way back machine to Reggie Davis, who was supposed to be quite the burner but never did much of anything.

  • oldon42oldon42 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    JimmyBob yes D-Rob has break away speed but he played with a bad hamstring all year. Fromm was constantly throwing behind him on crossing routes. I think he ran faster in games than he did in practice but Fromm's inability to connect with D-rob was also a major problem in Georgia's passing game that I left out.

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @oldon42 You added good stuff, but @JoelSidneyKelly said the important part first, Not slighting you, but giving credit where due. From my point of view.

    Get the passing straightened out, and everyone eats.

  • oldon42oldon42 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I may have missed his post. There has been so much activity on this thread, that I have given up trying to read all the posts and just gone to the last page. I know that I can not keep track of who said what.

  • Casanova_FlatulenceCasanova_Flatulence Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    1: Poor run blocking?

    A: I would more accurately characterize it as "inconsistent run blocking" derived from lapses in execution, as well as some scheme issues.

    2: Underperforming Swift?

    A: I don't believe Swift under performed. He was a victim of some inconsistent blocking, defenses keying on the run and Jake checking into some bad running plays.

    3: Underperforming Herrien?

    A: See answer for #2.

    4: Wrong type of run plays called?

    A: Yes, I believe this was an issue.

    5: Other?

    A: Lack of pulling linemen made running to the outside less successful IMO. I'm also not a fan of hybrid blocking schemes. Late in the 3rd Qtr. against AU we went to a more conventional run blocking scheme and ran it down their throats scoring our third and final TD to go up 21-0. I prefer that blocking approach. I'll be interested to see what CML's philosophy will be in 2020.

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    There is nothing off topic about the question. Three principal targets for one school and they are all taking their sweet time? D-mn good question, in fact, and pertinent.

  • Denmen185Denmen185 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2019

    Last year there was a lot of fans that felt that after ESD the class finished with a whimper! That's why I think that he wanted this year to end with a bang at the all-star games. The buzz around the class will be enhanced by the fact that the national audience will see the UGA brand get a boost that will last all preseason.

  • RandomFanRandomFan Posts: 536 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    For anyone trying to lay the blame at the feet of the passing game for the struggles of the running game this season, all you have to do is think back to Fromm's freshman season to realize that is an erroneous assumption.

    The threat of the passing game during his freshman season was almost non-existent with how much Chaney was trying to protect Fromm, rightfully so, during that year. We were still able to effectively run the ball even though defenses knew that's what we were trying to do. There are several factors such as lack of continuity along the OLine, lack of run blocking execution, but to me the biggest difference was the play selection and the play calls.

  • Raiderbeater1Raiderbeater1 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2019

    The fact no one was scared of our WR/TE/QB at ALL. They had their eyes in the backfield the entire time and had their 1st steps toward the LOS at the snap. They were never punished for guessing run first all year with our offense. The problem with the passing game directly effected the run game.

  • DawgGirl96DawgGirl96 Posts: 361 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You also didn't see the kind of run blocking from WR's this year that we'd seen in the past.

  • SWARLES_BARKLEYSWARLES_BARKLEY Posts: 308 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2019

    I’d have to point out that Fromm threw for 9.7 adjusted yards per attempt as a freshman. When he had to throw he picked up first downs. Most notably, Wims, Godwin, Hardman, Ridley etc were not dropping passes.


    I’m not an X’s and O’s guru and won’t claim that this explains the run game, but it is fundamentally different when the offense is capable of picking up a first down in a passing situation fairly consistently, versus this years passing game situation.

  • JoelSidneyKellyJoelSidneyKelly Posts: 3,678 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    More yards on fewer attempts in 2017.

    9.0 avg in 2017; 7.4 avg in 2019. That makes a difference.

    I agree that Chubb/ Michel/ Swift/Holyfield was a more talented backfield than Swift/Herrien/Cook/White (who will rebound in 2020 with a vengeance), and that makes a difference, too. But defenses weren't going man up 100% of the time on Fromm in 2017 because Godwin, Wims, and even Nauta were better off the snap than anyone on the current roster. And they were often on the field at the same time.

    There is more than one reason the ground game was lacking, but the air game was the biggest problem (and the WR were the biggest problem with the passing game, but not the only problem).

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