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Will anybody else be glad when Tiger retires ?...

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  • dawfanfromalabamdawfanfromalabam Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:
    The leader hasn't even been shown the past 5 holes. It's as if only 1 player matters.
    If you think competitive athletes like this, you don't understand how they function.
    Still, great effort by Elmo Woods.

    Pretty clear your problem is with Woods, not the attention he draws. Probably be different with you if he wasn’t black...

    Pretty clear to me you're an idiot disguised as a person.

    At least I don’t spout crap about having to watch some guy I said was washed up only to have him finish 2nd in the PGA Chsmpionsip. Like so many of your “insights” again you’re just wrong Elmo.

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  • BoulderDawgBoulderDawg Posts: 721 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:
    He's 8 shots off the lead today, yet he's the top story ?
    The guy hasn't won a major since WWII..or there about.
    It's past time to promote the top players today.

    Why is he a threat to you?

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  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Tiger still plays golf?

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  • RDDawgRDDawg Posts: 235 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Everyone on this board knows why he gets the attention he gets, especially by ESPN

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:
    The leader hasn't even been shown the past 5 holes. It's as if only 1 player matters.
    If you think competitive athletes like this, you don't understand how they function.
    Still, great effort by Elmo Woods.

    Pretty clear your problem is with Woods, not the attention he draws. Probably be different with you if he wasn’t black...

    Pretty clear to me you're an idiot disguised as a person.

    At least I don’t spout crap about having to watch some guy I said was washed up only to have him finish 2nd in the PGA Chsmpionsip. Like so many of your “insights” again you’re just wrong Elmo.

    You dragged race into the conversation, that was idiotic.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BoulderDawg said:

    @WCDawg said:
    He's 8 shots off the lead today, yet he's the top story ?
    The guy hasn't won a major since WWII..or there about.
    It's past time to promote the top players today.

    Why is he a threat to you?

    He threatened me ....
    You have proof of this ?

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  • judasdurantjudasdurant Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Some golf fans may be happy when he retires, but it will be terrible for the sport. Viewership for this PGA championship was up 69% from last year, and the difference between this year and last was tiger

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @judasdurant said:
    Some golf fans may be happy when he retires, but it will be terrible for the sport. Viewership for this PGA championship was up 69% from last year, and the difference between this year and last was tiger

    Doom was predicted when Jordan retired, and there was an adjustment period because fans had fixated on one player for so long.
    Looking at how the NBA has grown since he left though, it has thrived.
    Golf will be better off when fans allow themselves to move on and focus on the sport in a broader way. Tiger was very special to watch in his prime because he did amazing things. Now others are just as good, and even better. It's just an attachment at this point.

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  • ForestryDawgForestryDawg Posts: 29,326 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @CZCashvilleDawg said:
    @tiger_62082 You’r retiring, say it ain’t so ?

    Actually, @tiger_62082, I wouldn't say no to you retiring from your real job to spend more time being a great recruiting source for us. Unfortunately, we can't pay you.

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  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @judasdurant said:
    Some golf fans may be happy when he retires, but it will be terrible for the sport. Viewership for this PGA championship was up 69% from last year, and the difference between this year and last was tiger

    Doom was predicted when Jordan retired, and there was an adjustment period because fans had fixated on one player for so long.
    Looking at how the NBA has grown since he left though, it has thrived.
    Golf will be better off when fans allow themselves to move on and focus on the sport in a broader way. Tiger was very special to watch in his prime because he did amazing things. Now others are just as good, and even better. It's just an attachment at this point.

    The last finals Jordan played it the rating was 18.7
    after that
    11.3
    11.6
    12.1
    10.2
    6.5
    11.5
    8.2
    8.5
    6.2
    9.3
    8.4
    10.6
    10.2
    10.1
    10.4
    9.3
    11.6
    11.4
    11.3
    10.0

    The ratings for Jordan's 6 wins were 15.8, 14.2, 17.9, 16.7, 16.8 and 18.7. The two in between his titles were 12.3 and 13.9. The year before his first was 12.3.

    Basketball has not recovered from Jordan in terms of fan interest... not in terms of people watching games on TV. The casual fan hasn't come back. We haven't even gotten to the end of the Bird/Magic years when ratings were regularly around 14 to 15 when either team was in the finals.

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  • dawfanfromalabamdawfanfromalabam Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:
    The leader hasn't even been shown the past 5 holes. It's as if only 1 player matters.
    If you think competitive athletes like this, you don't understand how they function.
    Still, great effort by Elmo Woods.

    Pretty clear your problem is with Woods, not the attention he draws. Probably be different with you if he wasn’t black...

    Pretty clear to me you're an idiot disguised as a person.

    At least I don’t spout crap about having to watch some guy I said was washed up only to have him finish 2nd in the PGA Chsmpionsip. Like so many of your “insights” again you’re just wrong Elmo.

    You dragged race into the conversation, that was idiotic.

    Nah, I still think race plays a part for you and I’m entitled to my opinion. Did you enjoy watching Elmo yesterday, was he relevant enough for you?

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  • CatfishCatfish Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Doom. Now that was a good video game for it's time.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2018

    @DawginSC said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @judasdurant said:
    Some golf fans may be happy when he retires, but it will be terrible for the sport. Viewership for this PGA championship was up 69% from last year, and the difference between this year and last was tiger

    Doom was predicted when Jordan retired, and there was an adjustment period because fans had fixated on one player for so long.
    Looking at how the NBA has grown since he left though, it has thrived.
    Golf will be better off when fans allow themselves to move on and focus on the sport in a broader way. Tiger was very special to watch in his prime because he did amazing things. Now others are just as good, and even better. It's just an attachment at this point.

    The last finals Jordan played it the rating was 18.7
    after that
    11.3
    11.6
    12.1
    10.2
    6.5
    11.5
    8.2
    8.5
    6.2
    9.3
    8.4
    10.6
    10.2
    10.1
    10.4
    9.3
    11.6
    11.4
    11.3
    10.0

    The ratings for Jordan's 6 wins were 15.8, 14.2, 17.9, 16.7, 16.8 and 18.7. The two in between his titles were 12.3 and 13.9. The year before his first was 12.3.

    Basketball has not recovered from Jordan in terms of fan interest... not in terms of people watching games on TV. The casual fan hasn't come back. We haven't even gotten to the end of the Bird/Magic years when ratings were regularly around 14 to 15 when either team was in the finals.

    MJ was the biggest draw in NBA history, that is not in question.
    When you look at the overall picture though, it's a bit different.
    The second highest average NBA attendance period was 1992-1994, but the Bulls' 3 year run from 95/96 thru 98/99 was down in overall attendance. The highest attendance years in NBA history was 2007 and 2008.
    Losing MJ didn't damage The league.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @dawfanfromalabam said:

    @WCDawg said:
    The leader hasn't even been shown the past 5 holes. It's as if only 1 player matters.
    If you think competitive athletes like this, you don't understand how they function.
    Still, great effort by Elmo Woods.

    Pretty clear your problem is with Woods, not the attention he draws. Probably be different with you if he wasn’t black...

    Pretty clear to me you're an idiot disguised as a person.

    At least I don’t spout crap about having to watch some guy I said was washed up only to have him finish 2nd in the PGA Chsmpionsip. Like so many of your “insights” again you’re just wrong Elmo.

    You dragged race into the conversation, that was idiotic.

    Nah, I still think race plays a part for you and I’m entitled to my opinion. Did you enjoy watching Elmo yesterday, was he relevant enough for you?

    You're entitled to pull racial nonsense out of your ass, no big deal.

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  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 792 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @judasdurant said:
    Some golf fans may be happy when he retires, but it will be terrible for the sport. Viewership for this PGA championship was up 69% from last year, and the difference between this year and last was tiger

    Doom was predicted when Jordan retired, and there was an adjustment period because fans had fixated on one player for so long.
    Looking at how the NBA has grown since he left though, it has thrived.
    Golf will be better off when fans allow themselves to move on and focus on the sport in a broader way. Tiger was very special to watch in his prime because he did amazing things. Now others are just as good, and even better. It's just an attachment at this point.

    The last finals Jordan played it the rating was 18.7
    after that
    11.3
    11.6
    12.1
    10.2
    6.5
    11.5
    8.2
    8.5
    6.2
    9.3
    8.4
    10.6
    10.2
    10.1
    10.4
    9.3
    11.6
    11.4
    11.3
    10.0

    The ratings for Jordan's 6 wins were 15.8, 14.2, 17.9, 16.7, 16.8 and 18.7. The two in between his titles were 12.3 and 13.9. The year before his first was 12.3.

    Basketball has not recovered from Jordan in terms of fan interest... not in terms of people watching games on TV. The casual fan hasn't come back. We haven't even gotten to the end of the Bird/Magic years when ratings were regularly around 14 to 15 when either team was in the finals.

    MJ was the biggest draw in NBA history, that is not in question.
    When you look at the overall picture though, it's a bit different.
    The second highest average NBA attendance period was 1992-1994, but the Bulls' 3 year run from 95/96 thru 98/99 was down in overall attendance. The highest attendance years in NBA history was 2007 and 2008.
    Losing MJ didn't damage The league.

    Casual fans don't generally go to games. They watch on TV.

    The NBA may have grown their "serious fan" numbers. But they've lost those who tuned in to watch MJ because he's MJ.

    Golf Tournaments may recover their attendance numbers post Tiger. But those of us who never go to golf matches and only watch on TV when Tiger is in it will leave just like the Jordan TV watchers left. And those millions of TV watchers matter quite a bit.

    That's why the NBA had a lockout in 2011... they were clawing back money from the players that had been promised based on higher TV Advertising revenue that had disappeared after Jordan. The players went from getting 57% of income to 51%.

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