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Here is every pass play of 20 or more yards thru 5 games..

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  • moosmoos Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 2018

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Hard to say, they do have 100 more passing YPG than us total (which is a lot,) some I think it may be scheme related as well as the fact that they throw well into the 4th quarter with Hurts.

    But I think the completions/attempts comparison is interesting because they are viewed as having a more "open" offense than we do, regardless of how accurate that is. Whatever the cause, I think they're succeeding more early and being aggressive later.

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  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 5,378 mod

    20 yards is double the first down yardage, hence the "benchmark"

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  • umoonerumooner Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Tua has quite a few tds where his receivers were clear of coverage. I think Jake has 1.

    I’m amazed at how wide open they are.

    Same here, is it scheme or talent ? Jeudy gets huge separation.

    Both with a heavy, heavy dose of bad defense.

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  • levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 2018

    @moos said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Hard to say, they do have 100 more passing YPG than us total (which is a lot,) some I think it may be scheme related as well as the fact that they throw well into the 4th quarter with Hurts.

    But I think the completions/attempts comparison is interesting because they are viewed as having a more "open" offense than we do, regardless of how accurate that is. Whatever the cause, I think they're succeeding more early and being aggressive later.

    I just looked it up, 13.19 for Tua, 10.14 for Jake. I don’t have a feel to know how big of a deal that is. And I suspect it’s not really enough to go off of because statistics in football aren’t as telling as they are in other sports.

    Here’s the links if you want to look at more stats.

    Bama: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/333
    UGA: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/61

    I could care less about the extra 100 yards a game, that’s just Bama running up the score. I prefer the classier way Kirby handles it and just runs the ball at the end of the game to wind down the clock.

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  • umoonerumooner Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @moos said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Hard to say, they do have 100 more passing YPG than us total (which is a lot,) some I think it may be scheme related as well as the fact that they throw well into the 4th quarter with Hurts.

    But I think the completions/attempts comparison is interesting because they are viewed as having a more "open" offense than we do, regardless of how accurate that is. Whatever the cause, I think they're succeeding more early and being aggressive later.

    I just looked it up, 13.19 for Tua, 10.14 for Jake. I don’t have a feel to know how big of a deal that is. And I suspect it’s not really enough to go off of because statistics in football aren’t as telling as they are in other sports.

    Here’s the links if you want to look at more stats.

    Bama: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/333
    UGA: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/61

    I could care less about the extra 100 yards a game, that’s just Bama running up the score. I prefer the classier way Kirby handles it and just runs the ball at the end of the game to wind down the clock.

    Bama is scoring almost all of their points in the first half though.

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  • moosmoos Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @umooner said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Hard to say, they do have 100 more passing YPG than us total (which is a lot,) some I think it may be scheme related as well as the fact that they throw well into the 4th quarter with Hurts.

    But I think the completions/attempts comparison is interesting because they are viewed as having a more "open" offense than we do, regardless of how accurate that is. Whatever the cause, I think they're succeeding more early and being aggressive later.

    I just looked it up, 13.19 for Tua, 10.14 for Jake. I don’t have a feel to know how big of a deal that is. And I suspect it’s not really enough to go off of because statistics in football aren’t as telling as they are in other sports.

    Here’s the links if you want to look at more stats.

    Bama: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/333
    UGA: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/61

    I could care less about the extra 100 yards a game, that’s just Bama running up the score. I prefer the classier way Kirby handles it and just runs the ball at the end of the game to wind down the clock.

    Bama is scoring almost all of their points in the first half though.

    They're not crock potting anymore. It's more like sear and sous vide now.

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  • moosmoos Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @moos said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Hard to say, they do have 100 more passing YPG than us total (which is a lot,) some I think it may be scheme related as well as the fact that they throw well into the 4th quarter with Hurts.

    But I think the completions/attempts comparison is interesting because they are viewed as having a more "open" offense than we do, regardless of how accurate that is. Whatever the cause, I think they're succeeding more early and being aggressive later.

    I just looked it up, 13.19 for Tua, 10.14 for Jake. I don’t have a feel to know how big of a deal that is. And I suspect it’s not really enough to go off of because statistics in football aren’t as telling as they are in other sports.

    Here’s the links if you want to look at more stats.

    Bama: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/333
    UGA: http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/61

    I could care less about the extra 100 yards a game, that’s just Bama running up the score. I prefer the classier way Kirby handles it and just runs the ball at the end of the game to wind down the clock.

    Not strictly limited to passing, but if you have a 3YPP advantage over your opponent, then your win expectancy is 98.9%. It could be a big deal, all else being equal and head to head.

    Source: https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/1/24/5337968/college-football-five-factors

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  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Tua has quite a few tds where his receivers were clear of coverage. I think Jake has 1.

    I’m amazed at how wide open they are.

    It better not be the receivers fault they’re not open. As deep as we are at receiver, surely Kirby could have found someone that can get open.

    Robertson proved he can run routes and get clearance at Cal. I don't believe it's SEC speed at DB either.

    Agreed. Wouldn't be surprised if we start to see WR prospects start to reconsider their position on UGA. :blush:

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @donm said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @moos said:
    Interesting bit of side trivia:

    Fromm and Tua have the same number of completions. Fromm has 5 more attempts. Tua has 5 more TDs

    Is the 5 more TD’s because of a longer YPA? If Tua has a significantly larger YPA, that would be something to envy much more so than the 5 more TD’s. Both teams have plenty of TD’s to spare.

    Tua has quite a few tds where his receivers were clear of coverage. I think Jake has 1.

    I’m amazed at how wide open they are.

    It better not be the receivers fault they’re not open. As deep as we are at receiver, surely Kirby could have found someone that can get open.

    Robertson proved he can run routes and get clearance at Cal. I don't believe it's SEC speed at DB either.

    Agreed. Wouldn't be surprised if we start to see WR prospects start to reconsider their position on UGA. :blush:

    It's a fixable problem. The question is whether we have the right QB coach and WR coach to get it done.

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  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    How do these stats compare to Fromm last year? Just curious, as that helps tell us if we’re heading in the right direction.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Teddy said:
    How do these stats compare to Fromm last year? Just curious, as that helps tell us if we’re heading in the right direction.

    It will take some homework to come up with a meaningful comparison because all but 2 of Fromm's 10 throws over 20 yards this year were short passes with runs after the catch.
    Going over all 15 games from 2017 will be tedious unless the info is already compiled somewhere. I went through all 5 games and watched the point of each catch for this season.

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  • PharmDawg2054PharmDawg2054 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Thanks @WCDawg ... great information once again. This is why I come here is for stuff like this

    The part that intrigued me is length of pass past 15 yards. This means the team only has 5 pass completions that were thrown beyond 15 yards.

    That means less than 10 percent of pass completions are beyond 15 yards (in the air) and less than 3 percent of overall plays are beyond 15 yards in the air

    I do not think this is because the team is not capable... It’s mainly that these plays are not being called. We have a very stacked receiving room and we are not throwing the ball past 15 yards

    Looking at the fact that less than 3 percent of overall plays are beyond 15 yards in the air... it’s not hard to understand why someone like Haselwood is not as interested in UGA at this time

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Thanks @WCDawg ... great information once again. This is why I come here is for stuff like this

    The part that intrigued me is length of pass past 15 yards. This means the team only has 5 pass completions that were thrown beyond 15 yards.

    That means less than 10 percent of pass completions are beyond 15 yards (in the air) and less than 3 percent of overall plays are beyond 15 yards in the air

    I do not think this is because the team is not capable... It’s mainly that these plays are not being called. We have a very stacked receiving room and we are not throwing the ball past 15 yards

    Looking at the fact that less than 3 percent of overall plays are beyond 15 yards in the air... it’s not hard to understand why someone like Haselwood is not as interested in UGA at this time

    I didn't list passes under 20 yards, I know there are some between 15 to 20, that would take some more work to dig through.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @PharmDawg2054 said:
    Thanks @WCDawg ... great information once again. This is why I come here is for stuff like this

    The part that intrigued me is length of pass past 15 yards. This means the team only has 5 pass completions that were thrown beyond 15 yards.

    That means less than 10 percent of pass completions are beyond 15 yards (in the air) and less than 3 percent of overall plays are beyond 15 yards in the air

    I do not think this is because the team is not capable... It’s mainly that these plays are not being called. We have a very stacked receiving room and we are not throwing the ball past 15 yards

    Looking at the fact that less than 3 percent of overall plays are beyond 15 yards in the air... it’s not hard to understand why someone like Haselwood is not as interested in UGA at this time

    Ok, this was easier than I thought it might be.
    I found a video with every completion Fromm had last season.

    These are just the completions that traveled at least 20 yards from the LOS in the air, he had a lot more that ended up over 20 with YAC

    21
    41
    24
    34
    30
    45
    23
    40
    27
    25
    50
    25
    23
    25
    32
    23
    25
    36
    22
    25
    27
    22
    38
    42
    21
    23
    45
    So 27 completions with over 20 yards thru the air over 15 games compared to 2 over 5 games so far this season.
    After watching that video I'm more convinced Jake is taking longer to process this year, maybe because he's working on his progressions and he's not proficient with them yet.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Teddy said:
    How do these stats compare to Fromm last year? Just curious, as that helps tell us if we’re heading in the right direction.

    The comparison is in my last post, I meant to attach it to this post.

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