Instant Karma, The ump gifted Acuna a GRAND SLAM !

Dawgsauce

@WCDawg said:
The cheating buzzard called a strike on ball four, Acuna crushed a grand slam deep to center field on the next pitch. That was instant karma
Thank you very much A-hole.

That ego BS from umps drives me crazy, but I'm happy it happened last night leading to a grand slam!

kelly_b

C.B. Bucknor is not on this crew is he?

donm

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
I think he called it a strike because of the relaxed way Acuna took it but so glad he did.

Acuna stepped away from the box as the pitch was thrown, I agree that could have factored in.
It's just another in an endless line of bad calls. It's nuts to have a perfect system to call balls and strikes and not use it.
Dump the ump, let cameras call the shots.

Wish it were the argument room. I like the fact that umps miss calls, really I do. It makes things more uncertain and therefore more exciting or nerve wracking if you wish. In my mind, a robot calling the game would be boring. It might prevent arguments but there aren't all that may arguments over balls and strikes any more. Plus, I'm not sure the camera is always right. Someone has to make a judgement about where the camera sits and what it measures etc. Plus, haven't you ever booed the umpires when they come out on to the field? I love that part of the game.

kelly_b

@donm said:

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
I think he called it a strike because of the relaxed way Acuna took it but so glad he did.

Acuna stepped away from the box as the pitch was thrown, I agree that could have factored in.
It's just another in an endless line of bad calls. It's nuts to have a perfect system to call balls and strikes and not use it.
Dump the ump, let cameras call the shots.

Wish it were the argument room. I like the fact that umps miss calls, really I do. It makes things more uncertain and therefore more exciting or nerve wracking if you wish. In my mind, a robot calling the game would be boring. It might prevent arguments but there aren't all that may arguments over balls and strikes any more. Plus, I'm not sure the camera is always right. Someone has to make a judgement about where the camera sits and what it measures etc. Plus, haven't you ever booed the umpires when they come out on to the field? I love that part of the game.

I think this game is too complex and subjective to put in "robots," (though I'd love to see Sweet Lou throwing bags at one). I'm with you. Anyway, for the most part these guys do a great job. Yeah, they do make mistakes, sometimes game-deciding ones (infield fly rule, anyone?), but I also love the human element.

donm

@kelly_b said:
C.B. Bucknor is not on this crew is he?

knowing nothing else, that would be an excellent guess!!

WCDawg

@donm said:

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
I think he called it a strike because of the relaxed way Acuna took it but so glad he did.

Acuna stepped away from the box as the pitch was thrown, I agree that could have factored in.
It's just another in an endless line of bad calls. It's nuts to have a perfect system to call balls and strikes and not use it.
Dump the ump, let cameras call the shots.

Wish it were the argument room. I like the fact that umps miss calls, really I do. It makes things more uncertain and therefore more exciting or nerve wracking if you wish. In my mind, a robot calling the game would be boring. It might prevent arguments but there aren't all that may arguments over balls and strikes any more. Plus, I'm not sure the camera is always right. Someone has to make a judgement about where the camera sits and what it measures etc. Plus, haven't you ever booed the umpires when they come out on to the field? I love that part of the game.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

WCDawg

@kelly_b said:

@donm said:

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
I think he called it a strike because of the relaxed way Acuna took it but so glad he did.

Acuna stepped away from the box as the pitch was thrown, I agree that could have factored in.
It's just another in an endless line of bad calls. It's nuts to have a perfect system to call balls and strikes and not use it.
Dump the ump, let cameras call the shots.

Wish it were the argument room. I like the fact that umps miss calls, really I do. It makes things more uncertain and therefore more exciting or nerve wracking if you wish. In my mind, a robot calling the game would be boring. It might prevent arguments but there aren't all that may arguments over balls and strikes any more. Plus, I'm not sure the camera is always right. Someone has to make a judgement about where the camera sits and what it measures etc. Plus, haven't you ever booed the umpires when they come out on to the field? I love that part of the game.

I think this game is too complex and subjective to put in "robots," (though I'd love to see Sweet Lou throwing bags at one). I'm with you. Anyway, for the most part these guys do a great job. Yeah, they do make mistakes, sometimes game-deciding ones (infield fly rule, anyone?), but I also love the human element.

How is this complex, we all see the actual position of the ball in real time now through the triangulated camera integration system in use at every game. Just let it call balls and strikes, the umps would still have a role, just not the lame ass god like power they have now.

donm

@WCDawg said:

@kelly_b said:

@donm said:

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
I think he called it a strike because of the relaxed way Acuna took it but so glad he did.

Acuna stepped away from the box as the pitch was thrown, I agree that could have factored in.
It's just another in an endless line of bad calls. It's nuts to have a perfect system to call balls and strikes and not use it.
Dump the ump, let cameras call the shots.

Wish it were the argument room. I like the fact that umps miss calls, really I do. It makes things more uncertain and therefore more exciting or nerve wracking if you wish. In my mind, a robot calling the game would be boring. It might prevent arguments but there aren't all that may arguments over balls and strikes any more. Plus, I'm not sure the camera is always right. Someone has to make a judgement about where the camera sits and what it measures etc. Plus, haven't you ever booed the umpires when they come out on to the field? I love that part of the game.

I think this game is too complex and subjective to put in "robots," (though I'd love to see Sweet Lou throwing bags at one). I'm with you. Anyway, for the most part these guys do a great job. Yeah, they do make mistakes, sometimes game-deciding ones (infield fly rule, anyone?), but I also love the human element.

How is this complex, we all see the actual position of the ball in real time now through the triangulated camera integration system in use at every game. Just let it call balls and strikes, the umps would still have a role, just not the lame ass god like power they have now.

What would you see as their role? Just not balls and strikes? What about check swings? Outs at the bases? Catch/no catch in the OF?

donm

I like camera angle from behind home plate better than CF. Not for calling balls and strikes and such but for getting a better feel for what the batter experiences, including velocity.

WCDawg

@donm said:

@WCDawg said:

@kelly_b said:

@donm said:

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
I think he called it a strike because of the relaxed way Acuna took it but so glad he did.

Acuna stepped away from the box as the pitch was thrown, I agree that could have factored in.
It's just another in an endless line of bad calls. It's nuts to have a perfect system to call balls and strikes and not use it.
Dump the ump, let cameras call the shots.

Wish it were the argument room. I like the fact that umps miss calls, really I do. It makes things more uncertain and therefore more exciting or nerve wracking if you wish. In my mind, a robot calling the game would be boring. It might prevent arguments but there aren't all that may arguments over balls and strikes any more. Plus, I'm not sure the camera is always right. Someone has to make a judgement about where the camera sits and what it measures etc. Plus, haven't you ever booed the umpires when they come out on to the field? I love that part of the game.

I think this game is too complex and subjective to put in "robots," (though I'd love to see Sweet Lou throwing bags at one). I'm with you. Anyway, for the most part these guys do a great job. Yeah, they do make mistakes, sometimes game-deciding ones (infield fly rule, anyone?), but I also love the human element.

How is this complex, we all see the actual position of the ball in real time now through the triangulated camera integration system in use at every game. Just let it call balls and strikes, the umps would still have a role, just not the lame ass god like power they have now.

What would you see as their role? Just not balls and strikes? What about check swings? Outs at the bases? Catch/no catch in the OF?

They would be monitors and rules interpreters.

donm

Ah.

WCDawg

@donm said:
Ah.

Indeed.

orlando

The blue crew is part of the game, always has been, always will be
The only thing I see that should be changed is when the replay goes to NY, don’t give them the call on the field.

WCDawg

@orlando said:
The blue crew is part of the game, always has been, always will be
The only thing I see that should be changed is when the replay goes to NY, don’t give them the call on the field.

What is the value of having some fat, underpaid, half blind and arrogant ump making bad call after bad call ? Polio used to be a tradition too.

orlando

@WCDawg said:

@orlando said:
The blue crew is part of the game, always has been, always will be
The only thing I see that should be changed is when the replay goes to NY, don’t give them the call on the field.

What is the value of having some fat, underpaid, half blind and arrogant ump making bad call after bad call ? Polio used to be a tradition too.

I see what your saying and yes I think the umps in baseball and refs in football should be younger and trained better.