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Did Dallas just scam The Hawks in their trade for Porzingis ?..

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @bmauldin said:

    @WCDawg said:

    @MeR3htid said:
    Why the obsession about what the Mavs r doing? Whats done is done and can't b undone. We as Hawks fans should b ecstatic at the direction this team is headed. No long drawn out tank here.

    It's not an obsession when it involves The Hawks and news like this just broke.

    It affects our draft pick we receive from them

    Yep.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    J. Collins, Trae Young and the rest of this young, developing core r already (As of late) developing an appetite for winning that should prove to b contagious as they add 2 more 1st rounders in next yrs draft. Nail both of those and your young core is set to help aid Collins and Young as they drive the Hawks quest to return to the Eastern Conference elite.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MeR3htid said:
    J. Collins, Trae Young and the rest of this young, developing core r already (As of late) developing an appetite for winning that should prove to b contagious as they add 2 more 1st rounders in next yrs draft. Nail both of those and your young core is set to help aid Collins and Young as they drive the Hawks quest to return to the Eastern Conference elite.

    If you compare Young and Collins to players who went on to become stars, both are on the high end production wise. Few 20 or 21 year olds have produced more than Young and Collins. Collins really doesn't have a statistical weakness, Young needs to be more efficient on 3 point shots and turn the ball over at a lower rate.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Man at the rate those 2 r improving and given their ages and the pieces that r already being fitted around them, Im telling u right now that the Hawks r gonna b knocking on the door of the East elite within the next 2 to three years if Schlenk plays his cards right. I mean u can absolutely build a monster around Collins and Young.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I guess Atlanta Hawk basketb not really a thing huh?

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MeR3htid said:
    I guess Atlanta Hawk basketb not really a thing huh?

    It is becoming a thing.
    The organization is a couple of good moves away from putting together a sustainable winner.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah I was skeptical myself at 1st about the Young pick and even though Luca Doncic is AMAZING already, this Collins and Young battery is gonna lead this franchise back to relevancy sooner rather than later. People say Atlanta is not a popular FA destination and thats true, but what is also true is .that Collins and Young can make it one. I can c the Hawks in a couple of years signing a guy like Bradley Beal to create Atlantas version of a big 3. Collins, Beal and Young gives u a chance in the Eastern Conference. It wont b enough to get u over the top but it would put u 1 key piece away. Probably a true 7'0 rim protector that can also stretch the floor to b the perfect compliment to Collins up front.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MeR3htid said:
    Yeah I was skeptical myself at 1st about the Young pick and even though Luca Doncic is AMAZING already, this Collins and Young battery is gonna lead this franchise back to relevancy sooner rather than later. People say Atlanta is not a popular FA destination and thats true, but what is also true is .that Collins and Young can make it one. I can c the Hawks in a couple of years signing a guy like Bradley Beal to create Atlantas version of a big 3. Collins, Beal and Young gives u a chance in the Eastern Conference. It wont b enough to get u over the top but it would put u 1 key piece away. Probably a true 7'0 rim protector that can also stretch the floor to b the perfect compliment to Collins up front.

    Over the past 10 games Young has averaged 8.5 assist, 4 rebounds and 22.4 pts on .475% shooting. Not many rookie PGs have ever put up stats like that, and fewer have been 20 years old with just 1 year of college ball.

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah man the kid is on the fast track to Superstardom. Both he and Collins r for that matter.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The Hawks still currently have the 5th worst record with 24 wins after playing 71 games. Memphis and Dallas are next at 28 wins after 69 games. Could get close near the end.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bank. Dallas or Memphis will have to completely tank to ''catch'' The Hawks over 12 games.

    Where it really gets dicey is the lottery, Dallas could get a 5th or higher spot and they'd retain their pick. That is going to be huge one way or the other.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    MeR. The only concern I have with Collins is his play when the opponent has a big skilled under the basket center. He tends to play very soft against bigger,tough and skilled centers.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Might have some reverse scoreboard watching down the stretch. Hawks finishing top 5 and the Mavs finishing 6 or 7 is definitely doable. Hawks 4-6 in their last 10, Mavs are 2-8. If those percentages hold then it'll come down to 81 or 82 before we know. How that falls will go a long way in evaluating the Trae/Luka trade in my book.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited March 2019

    PT. of course finishing 6th from the bottom won't guarantee they won't draw a top 5 pick in the lottery. Conversely finishing 5th worst won't guarantee they will stay at 5.

    It will still come down to the lottery. All 14 lottery teams have at least some shot at any of the top 3 spots. The remaining 11 teams will retain the spot they finish at in the regular season.

  • PTDawgPTDawg Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Oh, of course. I'm just playing the percentages. I would feel much better going into the lottery drawing of the Mavs win a few these last few weeks and finish say 8th from the worst, you know? A little more breathing room on the odds. Have to wait a couple more months.

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