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Take 100 turns around the blue field of the Betsy Ross flag.
No comment ......
The Betsy Ross Flag had 13 stars to represent each of the 13 colonies. Just one year after being sewn, the Continental Congress decreed that the flag would have 13 stripes to represent the same. Fast forward, and the current flag still has 13 stripes to represent those same 13 s.lave colonies. So if the Betsy Ross Flag was somehow racist then the current version remains just as racist. It's complete hogwash, only now a major corporation has backed this idiotic notion. The Betsy Ross flag will now forever be labeled as having racist roots, as evidenced by the fact a major corporation the stature of Nike agreed.
The notion put forth above that anything from the **** era now symbolizes racism is the most absurd and ignorant way of thinking I can imagine.
Levi jeans are also racist because many white supremacists have been seen wearing Levi's at rallies.
And Bush's
in the meantime let’s all agree that Nike overreacted and we who love this country are taking our original flag back eh?
Let's look at reality for a bit: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/why-nike-pulled-betsy-ross-flag-shoes-after-kaepernick-criticism
NEW YORK — Nike’s sales have only grown since it seized attention with its ad campaign featuring former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick. So, the shoemaker deferred to its star endorser when he raised concerns over a sneaker featuring an early American flag.
Nike pulled the Air Max 1 USA shoe, which included a Revolutionary-era U.S. flag with 13 white stars in a circle on the heel. Kaepernick reached out to Nike after learning they planned to release the sneaker to explain that the flag recalls an era when black people were enslaved and that it has been appropriated by white nationalist groups, a person familiar with the conversation told The Associated Press.
Nike said in statement that “it pulled the shoe based on concerns that it could unintentionally offend and detract from the nation’s patriotic holiday.” The company pushed back against criticism that the decision was being “anti-American.”
“Nike is a company proud of its American heritage and our continuing engagement supporting thousands of American athletes including the U.S. Olympic team and U.S. Soccer teams,” Nike said.
Nike is showing consistency by listening to Kaepernick, the star of the brand’s “Just Do It” campaign last year that ultimately proved a win for the company, said Chris Allieri, founder of New York public relations firm Mulberry & Astor.
“Listening to somebody that has helped the brand in so many countless ways, it makes sense. It would be completely hypocritical for them not to listen to him,” Allieri said.
Kaepernick was the first NFL athlete to take a knee during the national anthem to protest police brutality. Some people called for boycotts after Nike featured him in a campaign last year that included a print ad featuring a close-up of his face and the words, “Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything.”
The boycott calls fizzled.
Nike’s annual sales have jumped 7% to more than $39 billion, according to the company’s last quarterly report. Its stock is up 12% since the start of the year. And Nike CEO Mark Parker has said the Kaepernick campaign inspired “record engagement with the brand,” an important goal for a company trying to strengthen its direct-to-consumer business.
“Can a brand be expected to know everything possible that could be offensive? That’s probably tough, but that’s why you have to have inclusive teams,” Allieri said.
Ducey ordered Arizona to withdraw a grant of up to $1 million that was slated for Nike, said Susan Marie, executive vice president of the Arizona Commerce Authority, which administers the grant. But the governor has no authority over more than $2 million in tax breaks over five years that were approved Monday by the City Council in the Phoenix suburb of Goodyear, where Nike committed to opening a $185 million factory that would employ more than 500 people.
Nike is unlikely to suffer financially over the flag flap, said Matt Powell, a sports industry analyst at NPD Group Inc.
“I’m sure there are plenty of states out there that would love to have a Nike factory that would employ 500 people,” Powell said. “Today’s consumers really want brands to be vocal on social issues, especially the younger consumers. This very much aligns with the social position of their core consumers.”
Indeed, New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham responded to Ducey’s tweet with her own: “Hey @Nike, Let’s talk.”
The abandoned shoe sparked a discussion on social media and beyond about the Betsy Ross flag itself.
In 2016, a Michigan chapter of the NAACP said the flag has been “appropriated by the so-called ‘Patriot Movement’ and other militia groups who are responding to America’s increasing diversity with opposition and racial supremacy.” The statement came in response to a high school football event where the NAACP said some white students used the flag while attempting to intimidate players from a predominantly black school.
The Anti-Defamation League says “Patriot movement” describes groups that include militias and others who have adopted anti-government conspiracy theories. The ADL says there is some overlap between the “Patriot” movement and the white supremacist movement, but that overlap has shrunk over time.
Another: https://www.npr.org/2019/07/02/737977542/nike-pulls-shoes-featuring-betsy-ross-flag-over-concerns-about-racist-symbolism
Nike has recalled a shoe featuring the Betsy Ross flag over concerns that the design glorifies slavery and racism. The red, white and blue sneaker had been set to hit the U.S. market to commemorate the July Fourth holiday.
"Nike has chosen not to release the Air Max 1 Quick Strike Fourth of July, as it featured an old version of the American flag," the company told NPR on Tuesday. Nike did not immediately respond to questions about the thinking behind the original design.
It released a statement saying, "We regularly make business decisions to withdraw initiatives, products and services. NIKE made the decision to halt distribution [of the shoe] based on concerns that it could unintentionally offend and detract from the nation's patriotic holiday."
The special Air Max 1 design — which includes an embroidery of the famous flag featuring 13 stars for the original 13 colonies — drew complaints that it celebrates an era in U.S. history when slavery was legal and commonplace. While the flag's defenders say it has a place in history, critics say it has become a symbol of extreme views.
Those critical of the Nike shoe include activist and former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick, according to The Wall Street Journal. The newspaper says Kaepernick asked Nike to reconsider the design out of concern that it would send the wrong message about race in the modern United States.
Kaepernick has not commented publicly about the controversy; however, the Know Your Rights campaign, founded by Kaepernick, retweeted several messages about Nike's decision, including one that used the Twitter hashtag #ImWithKap — echoing the protests that made Kaepernick famous.
Nike's prerelease images of the shoe sparked commentary and debate last week. "I wasn't free yet," read one comment on Sneaker News' Instagram post about the shoe. Other responses called them "Air Slavery." Some commenters said they view the symbol as evoking the American Revolution, nothing more.
Nike's sudden decision to withdraw the shoes drew an even bigger response.
"It's a good thing Nike only wants to sell sneakers to people who hate the American flag," Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, wrote in response to the Journal article on Kaepernick's role in the decision.
By the time Nike decided to pull the shoes, the company had already shipped the sneakers to retailers to meet a July 1 release date. The controversy instantly sent the shoe into collectible territory. While the original suggested retail price was $140, the sneaker at one point was selling for around $2,500 on the clothing site StockX on Tuesday morning.
In recent years, right-wing and extremist groups have attempted to adopt the Betsy Ross flag. In 2016, supporters of then-candidate Donald Trump displayed it alongside "Make America Great Again" banners at a high school football game, leading a Michigan school superintendent to apologize to anyone who was offended. The official called the flag a symbol of "exclusion and hate."
Despite the flag's name, Betsy Ross' role in designing and creating the revolution-era flag "is largely fictitious," according to the U.S. National Archives.
Explaining how Ross came to be credited with making the flag, the National Archives explains: "It is likely that her grandson, William J. Canby, developed the story in the 1870s and that her only connection to the American flag was as a Philadelphia flag maker who sewed flags and banners for the United States military."
Moved the thread out of the recruiting category...
@RandomFan 3 percenter is a 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights militia group who chose the 1776 Flag because it coincides with the Constitution. The group started when Obama was elected by promising socialism and gun control. I’m certain there are people who are members who don’t like minorities, but white supremacy is not their stated charter mission. Southern poverty law center (SPLC) describes them as anti-government not anti-black
Michael Ramos says he is not a white supremacist. Which makes sense, since he is freaking Puerto Rican
So here is a classic example of left wingers “accidentally on purpose” erroneously labeling every right wing protest group as racist. This has gotten old and is one reason why people are so infuriated when someone like Kapernick wins a position by espousing lies.
If you don't like the socialist tilt of where your government is headed, then you therefore must be a racist.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/betsy-ross-flag-nike-colin-kaepernick-patriot-movement-ku-klux-klan-854612/amp/
Yep, this guy, a member of the Proud Boys, is totally not racist... /s
I would ask you to define socialism for me since you are so scared of it, but since you are too ignorant to know that Obama was a neoliberal with fiscal values closer to Reagan than Bernie, and only a social progressive, I know I would be wasting my time. So don't bother.