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3-4A I believe.
We currently have 15 DB with my "ideal" of 14. Of the 15 McGhee and Reed will definitely be gone leaving 13. Additionally I see up to 3 likely entering the portal between now and this time next year. Depending on the line-up there are a number of players that could declare for early entry namely LeCounte, Stokes and Daniel. I would expect that 1 of these go also. That would leave us with 9 (15-2-3-1) and a theoretical 5 openings. I have had 4 since January although I did have a period where I dropped it to 3 based on consensus here. I really think we will need 4.
Thanks, @SoFL_Dawg. I would guess level of competition matters to Staff, but how much? Do they care as much, less , or more about their in-person evaluations and measurables when making calls about the where these athletes fall on the board?
Yeah I think it’ll be 3 this year. Could see a scenario with 2 if there’s a hard stop at 23. Even though Arian Smith is being recruited at WR, he gives staff flexibility. I’m not saying they’ll move him just that he gives them flexibility and based on bio, he’s a Stokes clone. Greatest concern is Safety imo.
Reese has to prove he can play in space.
Cine is as advertised but will be young. He’s 3 and done.
Chris Smith-Love the heart but I don’t know that he’s a championship team starter.
Everyone else is too young to speak on. Really like Stevenson at Star next year but Webb and Wilson likely still on campus.
Basically, it would be a lot easier if LeCounte doesn’t declare early but I think he’s a day 2 pick this year.
I understand it is unrealistic, but both Cox and Anderson played as Freshman, and really started to come on late. they have 18 months to develop their bodies in UGAs S&C/Nutrition programs (basically as long as they've already been here) before they need to be at the combine. Both players would also have 2 full seasons to improve on their issues that you listed above. IMO nobody on that defense is going to be putting up crazy stats, because we have so many capable guys, and they will be rotating in and out to stay fresh all game. Also look at Alabama & Ohio St. that is the model that we are moving towards, they have guys sit and wait, have one good year and go pro after that one year. This scenario might be unrealistic, but so was Holyfield, Ridley, Nauta, Hardman, Holloman, Ford, Fields all in the same off-season (after early signing day). I'm not trying to totally disagree with you, because I respect what you are saying, but Kirby got caught with his pants around his ankles after the Sugar Bowl in regards to how many guys he thought were leaving, and how many that actually did (not talking about Holloman). I just don't want to see that happen again. These kids that we recruit now have 2 things in mind, 1) Make it to the NFL 2) win a National Championship. There is less loyalty and passion about the University of Georgia for these recruits/players that we are getting now, than even maybe 3-4 years ago. They will leave in a heart beat.
It matters of course but he’s a FL speed player. Not just a track star. They’ve seen proof in the pudding from FL kids. I was surprised when he wasn’t the first choice between Wren and Henning. I posted that before things heated up quickly with both Wren and Henning.
FL skill players are different and if anyone has been in Lakeland, FL all these kids have is playing some type of ball. Nothing there. Arian Smith, imo, has a higher ceiling than anyone we’re recruiting at WR (includes Burton). He’s 4.3 speed but fluid as a football player. When/IF if clicks for him, he’ll be lights out and potential 1st rounder and he’ll be focusing on one position vs. the 3 he plays now. Not trying to sell a dream here, I think that’s a reality.
Thats thought out for sure, but alot is based on a worst case scenario where most leave early (transfer/NFL). I do agree on potentially losing atleast 1-2 to the Draft in Lecounte and Stokes and also 1 to the portal.
@SoFL_Dawg Hit a lot of the points above too.
If Ringo commits, he is expected to make the 2 deep right away. Kimber could use a RS year for weight gain, go would still get his 4 games.
I think we need to add at least 1 safety prospect in this class for depth next season (Safety / Star ). Looking ahead 2021 should be a 2 Safety class.
I’m going to share some things and I don’t want to sound negative but it is what it is.
For starters, I want you to turn on the game from fu last year and focus exclusively on 56. Yes he’s a freshman but just watch the tape. There’s a lot of concerns there with knowing what to do is all I’m willing to put on main board.
With Cox, he’s still a tweener. Not elite pass rusher, not and elite edge setter, but dang good at both. We agree these kids have time.
Id also point out that neither likely start or finish the season starting this year. I promise you it will not be by committee this year. If Kirby can help it, a few players will see 75% if the snaps. I said it earlier, I’ll double down now, Azeez will lead this team in sacks this year. He also sets the edge. He’s not coming off the field much. Cox will be relieving him when he needs it.
JJ and Nolan are already on same level with AA internally. That should also tell you something.
Don’t let recruiting rankings lead you to believe errbody is 3 and done. Let’s drive slower and see what happens this year.
Also love Smith but he could put his future first (wouldn't blame him) and feel that he could be a starter elsewhere. Brini and Speed and even Webb may have a similar decision to make if they don't get meaningful time this year. That's why I have 2-3 entering the portal. If Webb (or any of the others) breaks out this year he may also decide to leave with Swift. Anyway you look at it, with a good team season some are going to test the NFL water and some greener pastures. Few want to just be ST players unless they get a chance to stand out which is really KR and PR.
Nothing I saw out of Cox and AA led me to believe they are three and out guys.
Any updates on Ringo?
Solid points here too. I think depending on how the season goes and the feelings of players leaving by the staff, we could see a late 4th DB slot potentially open up but i think if its merely for depth purposes to get through 2020, id suspect another Juco or Grad transfer move to happen.
Brenton Cox is a mystery. From watching him I dont think he is athletic and twitchy enough to really step up. Vert disappointing
Chubb, Michel, L. Carter and D Bellamy.
100%. Word in Athens is that Webb has turned the corner. I think he’s the starter at Star this year.
Brini & Speed, I’m surprised they’re still on campus. Again, testament to what this staff has done getting these young men to embrace competition.
Yeah but again, drive slower. True freshman in the trenches of the SEC. This year will be more telling.
Amen @SoFL_Dawg.
The NFL is for the very elite. Yes we have very elite players - but they are not all elite regardless what their high school stars suggest.
We will certainly start seeing more 3 and out players each season - but I believe most players will head lessons learned last year.
Although very limited opportunities last year - Beal and Azeez showed real pass rush ability last season.
And you are exactly correct - only 3-4 guys in that OLB group will get the majority of snaps. They may all be good and highly rated - but there will be a couple that separate from the group.
You have more inside knowledge than most on here, so I will trust your insight here.
However, I'll just remind the board what we all know. Just because you aren't an NFL player based on your college production, doesn't mean you can't and won't declare as soon as possible. Everybody in that room has NFL size. Will Cox & Anderson as 5 stars really want to sit on the bench for 2 years while younger newer guys play ahead of them? I'd say no. So something will change their by or before the end of 2020, which brings me back to my initial point of turnover in the OLB & ILB room after the 2020 season. There are too many talented guys too close together eligibility wise.
@dgd829 fair point. You’re right, anyone can leave at any time, regardless of performance. I don’t think they’ll ride the bench. I especially like AA because he can be an elite pass rusher as he adds strength and mass to his frame.
It is also likely that we see some form of attrition from those rooms, especially the ILB room.
I am still bullish on Cox!