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One needs fewer rules . Then one would have fewer lawyers. Then one would see everything get better.
He can if it’s in an “on field role,” the rule applies to “supplemental/support staff” in off field roles.
(Edit: sorry @Denmen185 , I just saw your reply )
Yes sir @Denmen185 explained that to me earlier. Rule makes more sense now.
He won’t be anymore once he works for UGA. This way we have a guy NOT officially on the staff out doing his thing and pushing kids to UGA. I like where Edwards is.
He doesn’t push kids to UGA. Doesn’t chat recruiting with them, part of the reason he’s so successful.
The last two years haul is a result of a favorable depth chart. 5 exit to NFL, 1 dismissed, left with upperclassmen who wouldn’t be recruited by staff today; these kids look at the situation and see immediate opportunity.
Either way....always good to have him out among them.
If he wants to recruit and wants that grind I’m all for it. Timing is off here for this to happen.
”If” Hankton is out, the replacement will be someone more accomplished, likely has worked in NFL in some capacity, and has worked with QBs in some capacity. Coley remains OC (this has been told to croots) and would likely slide back to WRs. The replacement will likely focus on QB development and assume passing coordinator responsibilities.
So in a sense, wed be looking for our own “Brady” if this all goes down. Again i know it’s unlikely we find an exact carbon copy but something like.
One of the names floating around is the right hand man to Brady. TBD if it’ll be an on field role or analyst.
LSU's 30-yr-old WR coach has a right hand man?
Agree with this soflo.....if there are offensive staff shake ups like has been rumored......I doubt Kirby is looking for a WR coach per say.
I believe he is looking for a coach that is more hands on with the offense.....and is coming here more for his ideas on offensive design than he is to coach a particular position or to recruit.
Some on here are unhappy with Hankton because of WR performance......he may or may not play a significant role in the underperformance of the WR group. None of us are at practice or have any idea what is being taught.
If Hankton is ultimately replaced......it will probably have as much or more to do with needing a spot on the staff for someone that brings more to the table in terms of offensive ideas than it does coaching a particular position group.
Because of their recruiting abilities and other things they bring to the table......Kirby isn't going to replace Coley, Dell or Luke. It would have to be Hartley or Hankton.
It seems that Kirby, and most Dawg fans would agree, would benefit from hiring a QB guru that would become either the passing game or running game coordinator........since improvement in both areas is needed.
Please tell me this isn’t Brian Schottenheimer
@SoFL_Dawg or anyone else with insight, one thing I've never seen really explained is how coaches become aligned with recruits. The point was made that Hankton wasn't the lead recruiter for any of this class's WR haul. That strikes me as unlikely to be a coincidence. It appears as though coaches tend to specialize in particular geographic areas where they have contacts, like Coley with south Florida for example. However, there are plenty of times when those coaches go after recruits well outside their usual area. Just curious as to how these things develop. Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
It almost sounds like you already know who it is? 😎
Yes.
A lot of it is regional. The assistants are given regions to cover.
For example I know Dell McGee covers Cobb County. James Coley covers South Florida, etc.
Not the whole scheme but part of it.
It’s true that coaches have their regions, but let’s be serious. Dell flew out to Cali to visit his top Dawg and I’m pretty sure the PittBoss was the lead recruiter on a majority of his OL targets/commits. It’s just very odd to me how our WR coach, wasn’t the lead guy for any of our WR this cycle.
Area recruiters based on established relationships. It’s like a sales territory. You call on the coaches in a geographical area, fostering, building, and most importantly leveraging relationships when you can.
Occasionally, if we trail on a recruit that we really want, Kirby will tap on our aces (it was Dell and Pittman, now it’s Dell and Coley) to take a lead on a recruit to make up ground. An example this year would be Burton. Dell had the area of Atl covered but when we backed off last spring, and then circled back around out of necessity, Dell was lead.
What separates our ace recruiters from the very good recruiters is subjective, but parents always say some form of the same thing, “I trust him with my son.” It’s the way Pittman and Dell make these kids and their families feel.
FTR-I don’t believe Hankton deserves to be exited. I think it’s too soon but I also believe a change has to be made, somewhere. I’m not sure how much more could’ve been done with some of the kids forced into action this year. When I’m hiring, I’m looking for a certain skill set, as I cover 9 states, sometimes I overlap with folks who I don’t think represent the brand the way it should be represented, but I have to work with the best that they have to offer (coach them up or out). This describes what Hankton inherited imo. The recruiting probably has the leash shorter than on field production this year.
Process of elimination, Coley is more of an asset to UGA over any player or coach not named Dell, period. Hartley went 1/3 on his primary targets but he’s in his first year as well. Fountain really stepped up in a pressure year. Indicators are indicating...
Interesting. Thanks for the info as always. How would adding him jive with current staffing? Does he have experience with QBs? There was hinting previously about bringing in someone with QB coaching chops allowing Coley to shift back to WRs and remain as OC.
That guy is now making contradictory posts. I smell a troll.