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Is it though? He's either lying or admitting to being willfully incompetent. If this was a democratic governor I would say the exact same thing. I have no problem with dragging the feet on the "shelter in place" order, governors are under a lot of stress and have many taxpayers to account for. But to admit that he didn't know asymptomatic transfer wasn't possible until a day ago....that is troublesome
Brian get off the forum and go back to work
If your insinuating this has to do with politics, you're wrong. Mike Dewine (R) of Ohio has done an outstanding job. Probably the best response of any governor.
Tom Brady Stan Account on Twitter: "“How’s nationwide self-quarantine going?” https://t.co/oP7sdQiUPA" / Twitter
today's good news...
1) Italy sees new cases/deaths continue to decline for the 6th day in a row
and this..
Good stuff right there. Hopefully they can speed up the vaccine clinical trials in a safe and effective manner. They usually take about 12-18 months with 12 being fast.
You are doing so much to help people around you stay safe. That is a gift and I'm so glad to hear how you are helping. Communities need folks like you to help everyone stay safe.
Everyone,
It is easy for things on here to becom political and we dawgs have to band together to make sure this doesn't happen, particularly on this thread. It is OK to say that a governor should know that assymptomatic spread takes place and I think it is OK to say that a governor should have followed expert advice and ordered a shelter in place earlier as every 3 days of delay statistically doubles the number of deaths.
But, I don't think we should say things like it calls in to question their competency as a leader. Yes there are examples of Democratic and Republican governors responding well and poorly to Covid19. But, let's keep it to observations about shelter in place or transmission and not bridge to calling leadership into question because that pivots from Covid19 to the political. Let folks on here draw their own conclusions about leadership. I for one am glad that we can all discuss facts about Covid19 together. I have seen posters on the left and the right veer off from this and it is up to all of us to focus on Covid 19 from personal stories to data to strategies to address it, but not use that to extrapolate out even if it is easy or tempting.
Thanks Dawgs!
To sum up...
Just be the first minute of every interview on TV news right now, not the last four (where the interviewer tries to lead the guest into saying what they want them to say instead of just reporting).
The first minute is the dragnet info, the rest is this virus in TV form - just s.ucks...
BTW, I continue to gladly social distance...
My view right now...
I think I see mask on them....little ones, but!!
This graph is a good snapshot in time looking at new Covid19 cases by country. Most countries around the world seem to have gotten a handle on it and new cases are declining in mos tcountries.
In the US, we need to have a frank and honest conversation about how we got ourselves to where we are and what we need to do going forwad.
Daily confirmed new cases (5-day moving average)
Outbreak evolution for the current 10 most affected countries
Frank and honest conversation in the US? 😂 But agree. Good luck.
Very kind of you to say! Thank you.
Thanks for sharing Kasey - will take all the promising news we can get.
Definitely promising that it works in animals thus far but I agree with @YaleDawg re: the importance of human studies. In vaccine development, developing a vaccine that is effective at neutralizing a strain is one thing, but ensuring the safety is super critical as it will be injected into millions of otherwise health people. That's the part that takes the longest in the development cycle.
I think the frank and honest conversation needs to be, in actuality, two conversations...
The first one is a NY/NJ conversation, that may ultimately include a few other cities...
The other is a conversation about the rest of the U.S., including California, Washington, Ohio, etc. Their "graph," along with the majority of other states would look different. Some of that is a timeline difference, some is a mitigation difference (or a combo of both).
It's obvious that, in some places, the social distancing hit too late. Albany is a great example of this. It's not just a metro problem, it's a timing problem.
What we are doing is "working," if by working we mean holding back the wave for a little while. There should be 25,000 deaths in Washington by now if NY's curve is everyone's fate. It's not.
C'mon, summer heat - do your thing...
Brazil is currently seeing an exponential growth in cases and they are in the middle of their hot, humid summer. Maybe the summer here will slow it down, but nothing suggests it will stop completely. Australia is seeing the same thing.
Exactly. His office is 6.3 miles from the CDC which is not only the foremost disease control authority in the world they identified this in JANUARY.
I hope you're right but my theory is different. The problem started in Wuhan which is a major manufacturing/exporting region in China. It spread to Europe with hubs in Italy (Milan), UK (London). France (Paris) and Spain (Madrid). The cities mentioned are the major financial capitals in Europe. Then it spreads to the US via New York. Italy's numbers exploded as it spread internally and more recently Spain, France and UK seem to be on the same track as Italy but 10-14 days behind. The US is another 10-14 days behind Europe and by sheer size it will take longer to spread country-wide. The West coast probably received a "glancing blow" due to travel from China mainly going to NY entering LA, SF and Seattle as transit stops not integration within the communities. Washington and California could get a second wave Late April.
The Federal government needs to set nationwide and MUCH MORE STRICT standards and order a universal stay-at-home policy else we will see 5,000+ daily deaths before May 1.
Sobering thought, if you exclude the US and instead treat each state as a country NY would be #3 in the world.
STAY HOME, STAY SAFE, SANITIZE
Denmen, i think you are treating each region the same regardless of the response to Covid19 and this isnt the best way to look at things. If it was "sheer size" that mattered, China, India and California would dominate cases. Covid19 is not coming back to China because of their authoritarian control of it. Covid19 isnt coming back to California because we aggressively contained this (we've been sheltering in place for 3 weeks now) and everyone generally abided by it showing that Covid19 can be done in free and democratic places. What matters is not left or right politics and not democracy or authoritarian but simply those that heed expert advice before damning evidence or those who think experts are exaggerating until damning evidence compels a change in approach and by then that country, state or city is screwed.