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"I don't know this Elon. I don't know what he does or what he lives on".
Aside from that, cudos to him for standing up to Alameda County, California with their onerous rules for opening back up. I'm sure Texas or Nevada would welcome his company with open arms.
California, the state that has the highest sales tax rate (very regressive) and some of the highest state income tax rates. It's no wonder that many movies are now being filmed in Georgia. The actors just need to relocate here. Great weather, great golf, and much more favorable tax rates for individuals. Businesses too, I suppose.
BTW, my local par 3 golf course in Braselton charges just $15 for a round. And with the present situation, I have been offered several complimentary rounds as well. Same for the two par-70 courses. A full round will set you back about $50, sometimes less.
In California, I suspect you'd have to fork over atleast $200. Why live there?
great weather, great food, beautiful women, the beach, wine country, short drive to Vegas
but i am with you on the taxes being too high
@Supra Ah, the old censor-the-word-s t r o k e. ".... from a heart attack or s t r o k e.." You got censored for that?
If you are aware of anyone falsifying death certificates, you should report it to the police. No one has been able to show me a specific case where someone dying from a violent injury like a car crash or gun shot was listed as a covid death.
Yale - 2 of the 4 articles are 4+ weeks old. Just saying...
I have no idea, but I am not a conspiracy theory guy in either direction.
Like I have commented before, we have to look at who is doing the reporting and decide if it's legit. For instance, MSNBC and FOX can somehow reference the same CDC report and somehow it says two different things. It's all crap...
Prayers for Frontline folk. Prayers for a treatment and then a vaccine. Thankful for this beautiful weather so we are not stuck inside.
My issue:
Still unclear how Lowe's can look like an East Asian subway, yet we still can't open a gym up...
I'm aware. I gave a range to show this has been widely reported for a while and it is still being reported currently. Do you have any recent sources that refute the older and current reporting?
Not sure who filled in the auto censor word base, but I could only imagine....
I am not sure it can be refuted. I was just implying - since thoughts on this situation change seemingly by the day - that assumptions made by anyone a month ago may not be worth citing. Smartest folks in the world have changed their stance on most things - sometimes more than once - since this started.
I was really taking a jab at the media, not any conclusions you had made. I am sure that the numbers reported are way off due to the vast variables involved. To imply a variance in the same direction every time has really different implications that just implying a variance. That's a biased system or nefarious intent. Again, I ain't the conspiracy guy, but to each his own. Regardless, each number is someone who passed away, so it's awful.
Had a senior sociology professor teach half a semester on the role of the media in our society (he was a JFK-grassy knoll guy). I thought he was a little off, but his take on the media's role in a free society was spot on. And in this era, they have failed miserably.
RxDawg, you ask a good question about underreporting or overreporting. My question is how we can figure this out without arguing?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html
I came across this article. Actually, I didn't read the article and given how polarized news is, I'm not asking anyone to read it. I just looked at all the data and graphs on the overall death rates in 2020 vs historical averages. Country by country, you can see a clear trend.
Data can be skewed by talking heads this way and that. But, I find it is easier to skew when you go down rabbit holes and try to find subsets of data that make this point or that. But if you pull up to the 50,000 foot level and look at the big picture, there is no way to slice the data for this view or that, it is just data. The graphs in this article are the highest level of data one can look at. I can't tell you what to think of it, make of it what you will. But this data cannot (and should not) be sliced by people wanting to make a left or right arguement for political points.
Fauci in his testimony yesterday said that there is no doubt that the deaths are higher than reported.
There are incentives for people to over report just like there are incentives for people to under report. We know we don't have precise data. We can speculate all we want. Generally, the speculation will be biased to the side you lean towards. The extreme will have beliefs it is skewed greatly one way or the other. Odds are, the numbers aren't very far off of what is being reported. The models were off in many cases because of faulty data and conservative assumptions but i find it hard to believe the death toll numbers to be extremely far off. Regardless, the numbers aren't high enough nor the spread fast enough for people to remain in fear. At least not fear enough to risk financial ruin. Economies are going to get going again and that is the right call. Our hospitals are not overwhelmed. The curve has been flattened. Smart people will keep monitoring the virus in case it goes crazy with resumed activity (a good percentage of us never paused activity anyway). It seems pretty clear that this virus was not the worst case scenario some thought it was. It is a vicious virus but not as catastrophic as many predicted. Thats a huge blessing we should all be greatful for.
So it sounds like what we are doing to slow this down is not working. What is to keep the health care system from collapsing with the economy? Also not so sure what comes out of the NY Times is gospel. Not sure who to pick to believe. I am sure there are articles out there that dispute these numbers, they even say the numbers are estimates in many places and have been corrected. Where do they get their numbers?
Starting to think Fauci has an agenda. Love to hear people comment how he went behind Obama's back to give a grant to Wuhan.
I saw that. I kind of laughed to myself and thought "well I guess that answered my question to Yale on the forums".
But... I'm beginning to think Fauci is kind of like the restaurant hostess that tells you it will be a 45min wait for a table, and then your happy when it's 15.
Well, give me a guy who is wrong sometimes - but it's an "honest wrong," meaning he looked at all the data and other information and made assumptions based on past experience and just didn't see some things coming. I will listen to that guy ALL DAY over someone with a political agenda, trying to see how they can keep their job, or how "their side" can win through all of this. Those people are HORRIBLE PEOPLE, which is 75% of the politicians talking out there right now, and 98% of the cats on TV spinning news into propaganda. Fauci has served through 5-6 of the most diverse presidential terms you could imagine - and every one of those people have nothing but respect for the guy. Personally, I will take 30 years worth of opinions of coworkers over 3 months of anything if I am forced to have an opinion.
If we are going to judge him on his track record of nailing each detail of a virus no one has ever seen before in a climate no one has ever seen before, then we are truly ass.es. Just petty morons. Rand Paul comes off looking like one when he makes the comments like he did yesterday. And more times than not we exist on the same side of things.
To make any judgements on how anyone is "handling" this unique situation right now - with about 7% of the data and information known - makes you an a.s.s. 5 years from now, read the books and the articles in Nature and Science and make your educated decision then.
Again, everyone has a right to their opinion, and has the freedom to judge how they see fit. I would prefer we just all try to work together to figure this thing out. I am ready to teach and coach again.