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  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yes it is roughly 37k total. But the net difference is about $6500 compared to a non covid treatment. The deal was hospitals would get an extra 20% on top of the normal rate.

  • MarkBoknechtMarkBoknecht Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm starting to feel better. Day 7. The first four days were hel l. A splitting/throbbing headache that felt like someone shot me in the back of the head with an arrow. I know it doesn't sound that bad, but it was.

    And except for day one, no fever. Wierd.

    Felt a little like regular flu symptoms from years ago, just lasted longer.

    My Doctor said to go get tested and I tried to schedule an appt. through CVS health. Even 3 days out, no appointments available from six different test sites within 20 miles of my home, or if there was a time slot available, clicking on that time slot produced an error message.

    I'll bet it had something to do with the rush of people trying to get tested -- reportedly people were lined up in their cars for 4 hours trying to get tested.

  • how2fishhow2fish Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    With respect I don't see how that has a "negligible" effect on the real number if ..if every new positive test case for a period of time was counted as a new case the only way to right that would have been to subtract the number of cases counted like that...I have not seen such an adjustment , has their been and I missed it ?

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    “ I have a close personal put my hands on person...”

    This made me chuckle.

    As to the earlier point about masks being mandated since March and the high pos test rates in Miami...I wonder if masks really work? Has anyone looked at this issue?

  • BumBum Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That is surely a stretch, but at least in those cases there was actually a positive test. In other cases I’m hearing there were no tests whatsoever given and marked COVID positive or COVID death. I have made it a point to ask everyone about this recently and it seems everyone has a story to tell, I hear new ones everyday. I heard another example of a COVID death with no test last night at a dinner party, my friends grandmother. I trust the experiences of my friends and family members I know personally, as do you. In each instance, I’m supposed to trust that lie was the only one committed by a particular institution? Come on....

    If people are willingly naive that is on them, and history will tell the story as it has done many times.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    No, this has not been “corrected.” I don’t feel it has been verified as being true. Lots of people making the claims, but I haven’t seen anyone post a link to a news story, much less quote a reputable source.

    @MarkBoknecht Glad you are feeling better. The inability to get tested is still very real, despite the huge number of tests being conducted. I’d guess the true infection rate is still 10x higher than known cases.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    From the CDC

    "The number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases, as one person may be tested more than once."

    We weren't even talking about this in the comment you quoted. We were talking about the error in percent positive cases for Florida, but I'll go ahead and get that out of the way as well.

    "Of the more than 450 facilities with zero negative results, only 81 reported more than ten total tests.

    In fact, the vast majority reported only a single test.

    With the state reporting 3.3 million tests statewide, the lab and hospital we spoke with both agreed, even as they go back to clear up the reporting errors, they find it unlikely it will make any significant change to the overall positivity rate."

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What treatments? The only drug in the guidelines is dexamethasone. Oxygen and steroids, yet the hospitals are losing money? I find that hard to believe. Remdesivir if they are severe, and only for 5 days. Z-pacs only cost a fortune at a hospital.

    I just don’t buy the financial games hospitals play when all they are doing is hooking up IV’s and monitoring people‘s O2 levels. It’s not like after emergency surgery when 5 doctors visit a day, plus anesthesiologists, etc. It’s expensive because they try very hard to make it expensive.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    Misreporting covid cases for more money would fall under medicare fraud. I'm really skeptical this is happening because the whistleblower law for Medicare fraud allows the whistleblower to claim 25% of whatever the government recovers. So I am to believe that there all these people working in labs and hospitals that know fraud is taking place and would get a huge payday from blowing the whistle but choose not to report?

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah healthcare in America is way overpriced but that's a topic for another day.

  • texdawgtexdawg Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is most likely happening in every hospital in America. And why wouldn't hospitals do it? They aren't being challenged.

    Obviously covid is causing deaths......the problem is .....how many?

    If covid incentives stopped immediately.......how many covid deaths would there be?

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It’s all about greed. Even the whistleblowers are waiting until the end when the payday will be bigger.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If that was the case they'd stay quiet about it instead of telling all their friends.

  • dgdawgdgdawg Posts: 242 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    It is true. I was doing security work for a government database (southeast, GA). Their systems do not have the ability to distinguish between separate tests for the same person. The only thing the database separates is from the 'Is positive column' from the 'Y' and 'N' flag. You probably won't hear this reported by medical personnel because they likely don't even know it is an issue. The only reason I have it is I was third party security and have no ties to them.

    Note: I have no data for private medical facilities only government.

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