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I’m gonna assume this was a joke.
Only partly. if they make and sell a vaccine that is going to be $$ so that has more than likely incentivized the making of a vaccine rather than other treatments other posters have been touting. High demand, low to medium supply (i'm guessing)...another great american business success story.
Or...capitalism.
You don’t see the utter and complete failure of your efforts, being part of “them?”
You don’t see the complete hypocrisy of fast tracking a vaccine for the next phase after only 45 people, after making such a statement regarding the “Gold Standard.” Why are the vaccines being pushed through so quickly? Because this is a pandemic and a major World medical emergency, right? One problem - treatment protocols are given the same priority. Instead the suggested remedy is....NOTHING! GIVE THE PATIENT NOTHING!
There was a study involving more than 45 people in which ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of all patients in the ICU were Vitamin D deficient.
Found to be statistically insignificant and (I believe you said “weak”). 100%? Vitamin D is freaking basically FREE, but those greedy people in the “them” category have to roadblock even something as simple as that because we need to VACCINATE every living person and capitalize on all of the pharma stocks they’ve been buying.
I can imagine the conversation, “Well gosh. There are just too many variables with this vitamin D thing. I mean...what if we administer the D and the patient dies? Or worse yet...LIVES!!! “(Laughter all around the room.)
I guarantee everyone on this board that if YOU tested positive for Covid, you would immediately start taking vitamin D, Zinc, and probably NAC before you would just wait around to see if you get sick enough to be hospitalized. You may already be taking them.
Yeah, we agree then that CDC is steering toward a vaccine. That’s govt doing that, the complete opposite of capitalism. Any “private” company in bed with the CDC has nothing to do with a free market either. But from what I’ve seen it’s the NIH and their affiliates that probably get the widely produced vaccine for US. I’ve been saying for months, let’s just get Fauci and his boys their money and move on with our lives.
The vaccines are going through clinical trials as well. The first two phases don't involve many people and the third phase is the large one.
I get it man. You're scared, frustrated, and don't understand what's going on and you want to believe that this is a conspiracy orchestrated by evil people to make money and hurt certain political groups. That means there is order in the world and you wouldn't have to accept that the world is messy, chaotic, and dangerous and sometimes things like pandemics just happen.
Don't worry. We're all gonna get through this.
Yep. Pandemics do happen. That’s what everyone has been saying. Darwin had a few things right.
The country should be awarded one of those Darwin Awards for the way we’ve destroyed ourselves.
Haha I agree but we're probably thinking of different groups who would get it.
The 2 tables above show total data through end April and the month of May.
You can see that the %Pos in NY and NY were 34% and 48% respectively. This indicates that testing was totally inadequate as we know at that time. This means that cases were way understated (likely by a factor of 3-5) compared with it would have been at today's level of testing. It also means that testing was so restricted that the severity of the cases found were much much higher than those being identified today. Therefore it's not an apples to apples comparison to compare 300,000 cases in March/April with 300,000 cases in May/June/July and expect to have CFR anywhere close to each other. The deaths per million is a valid comparison but you should take account of the fact that NY/NJ were caught completely unawares and so didn't have the expertise, facilities or equipment to properly handle the onslaught. They also didn't have the beneficial changes to treatment and drugs that have occurred partly as a result of their trials and tribulations.
In other words, we're improving (at the very least) or we're improving and the virus isn't as deadly. This is the kind of story people would like to hear instead of doom and gloom all the time.
This is weak. I realize you're partly trying to wind a certain person or two up, but really? I could argue with the same lack of muster that socialism causes the problem. The US is as much a socialist country as it is a capitalist country at this point. To imply all blame belongs one way or another is dishonest at best.
@YaleDawg I know the link will turn your stomach, but the last sentence immediately made me think “Gold Standard.” Thoughts?
I don't want to say he's a liar but he is definitely mistaken that policy changed because of a hairdresser study alone. He is correct that the data before hand weren't that strong, but as the pandemic progressed places that mandated masks or had cultural norms for mask wearing had lower transmission of the virus and lower death rates. We also have data from the US showing places that mandated masks have lower transmission of the virus after the mandate. Sure, an RCT would be the best form of evidence but no one is suggesting that masks will cure covid-19 or that it's a cure all.
I would suggest to stop reading breitbart. They make money lying to you about things they know will trigger you.
I read a lot of things from all perspectives. About the only thing I won’t read is salon.
Actually, someone did say that wearing masks would be a cure all. The head of the CDC said we could drive this thing in to the ground if everyone would just wear a mask.
oh someone at the CDC said to ingest masks? interesting
Well socialist for major corporations that go crying poor with their hands out for their buddies in congress to help them out but tell ham and egger small businesses to kick rocks when asking for the same money? That kind of socialism? That I agree with.
The game seems rigged for the big boys which is all I was trying to get across in my statement.