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COVID-19 Check-in 2.0
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Well I work around a few Doctors, PA's and CFNP's and they are worried....
My cousin penned this about my grandmother:
2020 has been a tough year. It might be good to put things in perspective. This photo is of the wedding of my grandparents. My grandmother was born March 3, 1900
Imagine if you were also born in 1900. When you are 14, World War I starts. As a young bride, you send off your husband to the war. It ends when you are 18 with 22 million people killed. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until you are 20. Fifty million people die from it in those two years. Yes, 50 million.
When you're 29, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, global GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren’t even over the hill yet and now you have four sons overseas in the war.
Between your 39th and 45th birthday, 75 million people perish in the war. The Holocaust kills six million.
At 52, the Korean War starts and five million perish.
Approaching your 62nd birthday you have the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tipping point in the Cold War. Life on our planet, as we know it, could well have ended. Great leaders prevented that from happening.
At 64 the Vietnam War begins, and it doesn’t end for many years. Four million people die in that conflict. Now it is your grandchildren overseas fighting in a war.
Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How do you survive all of that?
As kid in 1975, I didn’t think my 75 year old grandmother understood how hard school was. Yet those grandparents relied on grit and faith to survive through everything listed above. They remained faithful to God and country and built the greatest nation on earth.
2020 has been tough, but it is not so bad when viewed through a little perspective. We got this.
But the answer according to some is to completely isolate anyone over 65 and/or that live with someone in that range and/or have preexisting conditions for months if not years. Wont that lead to millions more committing suicide versus shutting down for 4 weeks with financial protection.
No.
My wife is a PA, she’s not worried...Neither are the doctors she works with, her uncle, one of the finest physicians in the entire southeast, my best friend the ER physician, and his wife who owns her own emergency medicine practice, nor any of my commercial physician clients that I’ve spoken to about COVID...
So indefinite isolation doesn't cause suicide? In June most all states were open to an extent and none to my knowledge were in lock-down. In fact I don't think any state has been in lock-down ever. Airlines never were restricted other than international travel which remains prohibited by other countries due to the US not getting Covid under control. Cruise lines are shut down but US tourists are banned in the Bahamas for the same reason and are likely not to be allowed until the virus is tamed. What other businesses are closed?
My plan was always shut down (really shut down) protect the individuals financially and tame the beast. For 90% of the people a job is the means not the end and if financially protected would gladly take a short sabbatical to see light at the end of the tunnel. and get back to a semblance of normal.
What are you suggesting is the way forward?
That was an eye opener. One thing kept circling in my head as I read it was through every one of those crisis', with the exception of the Vietnam war, the American people came together as one. During this crisis we are fighting and politicizing something as simple as wearing a mask.
What difference does my opinion make? Somebody will just post a pie chart or bar graph that demonstrates that I’m an idiot.
Google has made “confirmation bias” a simple pastime. I’m well aware that my perspective will matter a great deal to those that agree with me and amount to rubbish to those who don’t and wont do a thing to bridge the gap between the two.
I am growing weary of those who have no idea about the effect this thing is having on our population from a mental or psychological point of view. And I grow weary of those who do not care.
I will say it again - if you never consider different points of view in this situation - a situation that has many sides and angles and "tentacles" that reach so many, you are stubborn and part of the problem. Both sides are wrong about parts of this.
Some people on this board are convinced they are 100% right all the time. Either you are the smartest person on the planet, or you're wrong sometimes.
Outstanding post.
I would like to think we are still a nation of roll up your sleeves and lets figure this out.
After reading this thread for the past few weeks seems more like we are a country of we can't.
Best friends next door are practitioners, Covid testing even. Two ER nurses in large metro ATL hospitals on other side. Care for each other’s children. Taking it seriously? Sure. Worried and petrified from amateur doom preachers? No.
Ive also knew two people (One high schooler) commit suicide during the first lockdown. The other a dad.
@texdawg I’m sensing some positive momentum and welcome back to the thread...ha. Let’s go Dawgs. Keep the train rollin’. Common sense rules.
Canedawg,
No worries, I didn't even see it. I'm focused on getting the main halyard and companionway hatch repaired so I can keep sailing across the Atlantic.
Yale, I am the one who can't think critically?!😂 We haven't even discussed many of the most compelling arguments! But, as I said earlier, I think the Israeli doctor summed the situation up nicely (see below). It isn't just her study. The same strong correlation has been found in other studies (mild cases=high vitamin D; bad outcomes=deficient vitamin D). We'll see what happens as more research is done, but making sure you aren't deficient in D is a really good idea right now imho.
>>“We don’t know the mechanism....What we do know is that people who develop severe COVID and were hospitalized – these people have significantly low vitamin D levels.”<<
Man, I was doing the exact same thing yesterday afternoon...